Tundras live: Dumb Dad Jokes, Incorrect Opinions, and Relationship Advice.

here they are...

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. Not to belabor this topic but I wasn't able to continue this conversation yesterday so I'll add this in closing.

The main point I was trying to make was that if you're so inclined to give a harsh critique you should be able to take one. My view was that your opinion, even with all the preface you gave coming in was arrogant. You can argue 6 ways to the moon and back about how you were justified in it because you had no clue other ranges had rules that are expected to be followed but that doesn't change anything in the way I perceived your initial reaction to someone calling someone else out on a shooting range about a rule not being followed. Your continued justification of this fact only supported the belief in my mind. I was trying to incite some self reflection in how I perceived your choice of words. Instead of self reflection you gave me a varied number of reasons about how being a critical thinker and everything else in between justified being able to not follow rules on a shooting range. You claim to be a rule follower yet have opinions about how one could remove the bolt, how one could have their pistol dissembled... that wasn't the rule and neither example are justified as an excuse to not rack a weapon on a cold range if that is the rule that is expected. In the end, it is my opinion that you gave a half ass attempt of saying because of your flawed understanding it therefore negates your initial critique. Your critique doesn't go away just because you've now been schooled by a number of other people who chimed in that indeed rules are in place for safety. And yes other ranges operate with expectation's, not critical thinking interpretations.

when someone, a friend, a family member, and yes even a stranger on the internet, calls me out for a behavior I didn't believe I was exhibiting I try and take the time to ask myself why was I being perceived this way? The mark of an educated critical thinker listens instead of justifies.

To clarify what I meant in the dancing around the topic sentence was just this. That you were still justifying your initial response as not arrogant and it was because of all of the myriad of reasons you used to justify it.

 

And in the tradition of moving on I'm going to change my oil and rotate my tires.

 

Good oil. Lots of moly

 

While I'm allowing my oil to cool down a little bit, I'd like to post this photo that I captured outside of the Napa auto parts store.

 

I don't know what's more alarming - the camper falling out of the truck, or that someone is living in the Yaris...

 

exact sentiments. Wondering if it's the one and the same.

 

What in the Cape Girardeau Walmart parking lot am I looking at here?

 

Low trust society

 

No worries. Life takes priority over the interwebs for sure!

I've absolutely been reflecting on the responses and what I have learned and will be applying it in future takes.

I think we into semantics here, as I was explaining my ignorance on the other items caused me to have a take because I didn't understand the stance in the post. Actually googled the definition of arrogant to see if it fits. I see it. I don't find myself to be particularly important or have a great faith in my abilities to the point that I would call it exaggerated, but I did shoot from the hip (hah, punny) rather than asking questions to get clarification and understand it better. I assumed that things worked the same everywhere and that I had all the info, so that would be arrogant due to ignorance. My bad.

The good news is that I can take this and learn from it and work to be better for it.

I wasn't saying my critique was negated in the sense that it goes away. I said it nullifies/negates my critique meaning that may POV/argument/whatever was defeated, not that it went away or that I was blameless for being an ass. I fully own that I said it and got a mouth full of foot to chew on. If I truly thought it was wiped away I'd be deleting the post. I make mistakes and try to learn from them. If anyone else peruses it and reads through I hope they'll do the same.

 

Different ranges have different rules based on the RSO and range policy. Heck I have seen the same range have different rules depending on if it was open to the public that day or if it was a members only day.

Stuff changes. You used to be able to walk into many ranges, show ID and rent a gun and buy ammo to try out that gun. Then a bunch of people ended up committing suicide with rented guns so many places refused to rent guns to people there solo or who did not bring a gun of their own with them to start.

There was a woman in San Jose or Milpitas in California who went in with her child and rented a gun and killed the child and then herself. Just goes to show that how people behave has a direct impact on how rules are made and enforced in various places.

Agree/disagree or whatever, I thought the entire conversation was a good one.

 

Oof. That's awful. I never heard of the suicides at ranges. Pretty effed up. As if suicide isn't an effed up thing already, but damn. I can't imagine doing that to people.


Legitimately, the thought of other people having to clean up the mess has saved my life in the past. Apparently at that time my brain was ok with checking out, but not ok with being rude to first responders.

 

It's sad and it's tragic on many levels but you would be surprised at how common it is. Same thing with people jumping off of the Golden Gate bridge in SF. It happens more than people know and goes unreported to not put the idea in people's heads. I had a buddy who was Coast Guard and worked the bay. They often recovered bodies from suicides.

 

Yup, it’s a thing.

 

The bridge I get, and honestly it seems less horrible than at a gun range. That opinion comes from somebody who has never fished a body out of the water, so take it with a big ol' pile of salt. It just seems less horrific than using a firearm at a range.

 

See, like that. Terrible thing to do to somebody. If you're checking out, buy the gun and go do it in the woods or something. Not right in front of some pawn shop clerk.

 

Water recovery is bad too. Usually been in the water a few days for them to pop to surface. Bloated and soft.

 

Holy chit you guys got dark…