2021 TRD Pro engine lower power?

So I have been through a number of Toyota's in my life, and a few in the last 4 years. The ones that apply to my inquiry here are a '21 Tundra (non TRD Pro), a 2024 Platinum, and my current 21 TRD Pro. The original 21 Tundra I had for about a year and half, bought it new. Everything was great on that truck but I ended up trading for a 22 Tacoma with grandiose thoughts of offroading tight, technical trails. Even though I live close to some great spots for that type of thing, it never panned out and I got tired of the cramped small cab and the lack of power.

Earlier this year decided to trade the 22 Tacoma for a 24 Tundra and drove it for about 2.5 months. Of course it was luxurious and had plenty of power, but the monthly payment was higher than I really wanted combined with me getting spooked about all the main bearing failures. Decided I would get out of it before I got stranded (who knows if it would have actually ever happened) and get something I was more comfortable with the payment. Got the full price I paid on it for trade, so didn't lose out by the trade to the 21 TRD Pro.

Now that I am back in a 2.5 gen Tundra, I don't know if I got used to the power of the 24 Tundra or if there is something that needs addressing on the 21 Pro. It just does not seem to get up and go like what I remember my non TRD Pro 5.7 felt like. But it's been a couple of years since I have been in a 5.7 so I don't know if the 24 Platinum just spoiled me with it's power delivery.

I have no codes or pending codes. It sounds fine to me at idle. New air filter, cleaned TB, cleaned MAF. Records show it was serviced at Toyota for the first 50,000 miles and it now has 56,000 miles. 1 owner before me. Stock tire size, stock Pro suspension. I just seem to remember the previous 5.7 would push me into the seat if I needed to get on the throttle, but this one just doesn't feel like it's close that memory. Any body have any ideas or comparisons between the 3rd gen and 2nd gen when it comes to acceleration feel? Ideas on what would cause the 5.7 to feel anemic without throwing codes? Thanks for any direction someone can point me in, to to either help ease my mind about the power discrepancy, or places to start looking at to pinpoint a possible issue.

 

Try getting a Banks Pedal Monster. That'll push you back in your seat.

 

Push the tow haul button, that will wake up that 5.7.

 

Engine/transmission control adapts to your driving habits. PO was probably less inspired driver. Give it a time.

 

I can only speak to driving my rigged 2020 TRD Pro, but I do feel like it under delivers on power delivery, even when it was stock. I moved from a stock 2010 4Runner before, so it was a major upgrade in all aspects. However, so many of the new trucks with single/twin turbos make mine feel like a tank trying to catch up with APCs. She'll do it, just needs extra time.

If you're not getting codes, I doubt there is an a mechanical or electrical issue. I'm sure someone else would have a greater depth of knowledge on it than myself.

 

Thanks to everybody so far. Also, with the TRD exhaust, it's true dual from the factory so maybe I lose a little torque at the low end compared to the 2 in 1 out muffler on my previous non TRD Pro /Tundra? Hmmmm

 

Remove the negative from the battery for 5 minutes, install it back then floor the truck.

 

Agree this probably plays a role. Also agree you likely got used to all the low-end torque of force induction.

 

Yeah, the torque coming in that low was addicting and is probably screwing with my perception of N/A V8. Maybe I need to S/C the 5.7.

 

I also have to wonder if maybe the previous owner put a tune on it and had it on an eco tune or something.

 

Have you tried Tow/Haul button?

 

Yes, and it doesn't seem to make the same difference in response that it did in my first 5.7 Tundra. I can feel a slight difference but with my previous 5.7 Tundra, if the muscle memory of driving in normal mode kicked in while in Tow/Haul, it would almost snap my neck. The 21 Pro doesn't seem to have the same effect.

 

^^^This.

 

Check and see if there’s something plugged into your paddle position sensor, you may have a paddle controller on it

 

As said above, disconnect the battery. Being a low mileage high dollar truck the previous owner likely didn't drive it like it was stolen, but maybe the factory cats were or maybe the cats need blown out a little bit. Run 2 cans of Berryman's B12 chemtool in a half tank of fuel on the highway and get the shit cleaned out from the whole system from the tank to the tail pipe. At least then you can eliminate the possibilities for under $100 provided the cats are OEM. Change that PCV valve too, might just prevent cam tower seepage if you stay on top of good crankcase pressure venting maintenance.

 

Not appear too dense, but after reconnecting the battery do you mean to do that with the engine running or off?

 

Good idea, will run some of that cleaner through it. PCV on my list too.

 

Off. It resets the computer and will relearn your driving style.

 

I'll take a look when I get out of the office to check that they didn't have something like that installed.

 

Thanks, will definitely do that this weekend.

 

That's weird. The tow/haul button makes it hard to take off smoothly. I end up getting thrown back into the seat then my foot changes throttle position because of my body moving witch i end up letting off the pedal then my body moves foward and it throws me back into the seat. I think its to much. I kinda look like I'm learning to drive a stick.


Whats your 0-60 time?

 

@armygreentundra
The TRD Pro dual exhaust absolutely robs torque on the low end, and comes alive from 3500-6000. I have a SC and even with that the Pro dual exhaust neutered the low end. I put the DD ( DirtyDeeds ) TRD Pro dual replacement system in with the X-pipe and BOOM! back came the low end torque. The N/A 5.7 with a good single pipe exhaust will out perform the TRD Pro dual exhaust in the low end.

 

I resemble that remark. Although approximately 1/3 of the time I'm hauling an Elkhart shitbox. Anytime my right foot so desires I can get my wife all fired up and screaming for me to slow down. T/H is just plain dangerous if not towing. Chiropractors love this button.
My guess is the duals and different tires and used to the TTV6.

 

Yeah seems like something isn’t right. T/H is almost too touchy on my ‘21. It’s way more than a slight difference.

 

Something I noticed today was the perceived exhaust pressure on the driver's side is greater than the passenger side, at least during a cold start and the resulting high idle. I would hope that if this is a problem that it's a clogged cat as opposed to the whole bank of cylinders on the passenger side having lower compression or something.

 

Yes. Yes you do.
https://www.tundras.com/threads/general-supercharger-thread.85513/

 

Be careful tho, hit that button and you might whip your neck
Tow/haul mode off the blocks is wild in my truck

 

Something needs to be reset like these ^^^ fellers said.
Mine snaps necks and it is a heavy ass long bed, even with payload or light/med trailer('21 TRDOR), it was born snapping necks. I actually wish it would chill on the snapping a bit.

 

Regearing the differentials to 5.29's will give you great results overall. If you do it, throw in a powertrax to the rear at the same time for just a little more coin.