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100K maintenance required?

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by 1lowlife, Jan 16, 2024.

  1. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    1lowlife

    1lowlife [OP] Toxic prick and pavement princess..

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    I just had my oil changed and the dealer gave me the required 100K maintenance recommendations.
    My 2014 2WD will hit 100K in a couple of weeks.

    I plan to keep this truck for another 10 years and new ones are $80K..
    I don't tow, don't offroad, and do my own cabin and engine air filters.

    Funny they say the cabin air filter has dirt in it, I just changed it two weeks ago.
    I blow out the engine air filter every 6 months..

    Do I need all this done at 100K miles?

    Thanks..



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  2. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:20 PM
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    i recently had the last 5 items on your list done at the dealer. Was $850 ish CAD.
    Piece of mind for me and documented maintinance is valuable if I ever do sell it.
    I also have zero interest in working on my truck anymore and its paid off so I can justify the cost.
     
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  3. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:21 PM
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    I’d pass on the fuel stuff.

    If you’ve never done any of those other fluids, I would do them. Even buying the expensive Toyota ATF it’s under $250 for all the fluids to do it yourself. I’d go ahead and do spark plugs too and call it good for another 100k.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:26 PM
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    $69.95 for a cabin filter replacement. Outstanding.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:27 PM
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    I'm here to see what your selling :D

    I'd avoid the dealer at all cost for that very same reason(the cabin air filter).

    Find yourself a reputable and good honest mechanic to do the work that you don't feel like doing or want to do yourself.
     
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  6. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:28 PM
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    Yes you do.
    BUT you don't need to pay that amount of money.
    Good luck.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:31 PM
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    Cabin filter isn’t as atrocious as the “driveline” fluid… $450 to pour 3.5 quarts of gear oil in the diff? It is $70 (assuming you use the expensive stuff) of oil and 6 minutes.
     
  8. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:35 PM
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    At $450 it better be liquid gold......

    But yea, I think a reputable independent shop should be able to do the above for maybe half the price? Depends on the hourly labor rates....
     
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  9. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:42 PM
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    seems a bit high, I think it was $100 CAD each for 2 diffs and tcase at Toyota when i recently had it done.

    https://www.lethbridgetoyota.com/maintenance-menu/
    Yup, $120 CAD for each, so around $270 USD. Op’s dealer is greasy.
     
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  10. Jan 16, 2024 at 12:43 PM
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    Yes, do the fluids. BG is good stuff too. I'm not sure of your mechanical skill level for maintenance items, but the fuel treatment is an induction cleaning (running a chemical through a vacuum line), a throttle body cleaning and a fuel system pour in. As far as the fuel induction cleaning, there are kits available online and the other stuff is easy to do with a 10mm and a flat head screwdriver. Mostly you are paying for labor.
     
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    I did bottom 2 items when I hit 120k miles last summer. Truck was running better right after. Got used to it now.
     
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  13. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:59 AM
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    When I see dealerships doing these BG Product services, it screams to me overselling and markups. Service departments get incentives to sell BG products. The BG products themselves are fine for the most part. I definitely wouldn't do the ATF (since it isn't Toyota WS) or fuel system (unnecessary IMO). My issue with the diff fluids is that they are overpriced.

    Also, technically BG Products doesn't make 75W-85, which is what the manual calls out for on the rear diff. You'd probably be fine with 75W-90 though (which they do make).
     
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  14. Jan 17, 2024 at 11:22 AM
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  15. Jan 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM
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    Never do what the dealer recommends without looking in your owner's manual. The maintenance section of you owner's manual will list exactly what Toyota requires you to do at specific mileage. There will be nothing in the maintenance manual about cleaning your fuel system. The red flag should have been that they say you needed a cabin air filter and you already changed it. Your dealer is not being honest.
     
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    Service / owner's manual is your answer. Fuel crap is upsale as usual from dealerships.
     
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  17. Jan 19, 2024 at 5:05 PM
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    I’d do coolant and sparks and maybe driveline lubes
     
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    Wait what? They left off brake fluid exchange and a wiper fluid fill.
     
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    Coolant drain and fill; buy 2 gallons of Toyota coolant. About $65. You’ll need a bucket. Give yourself an hour.

    Power steering fluid exchange; buy a gallon of ATF and a 200mL Mighty-Vac syringe. Believe our trucks use Mercon 4 for power steering? Suck out the reservoir and refill with fresh. Start truck and turn lock to lock 10 times. Repeat the suck/refill/turn wheels a few more times. About $50 with the syringe off Amazon. Another hour, but that’s generous…

    Trans fluid; buy 4 quarts of WS from Toyota. Drain and refill. About $60. First time? Give yourself two hours because you’ll need to jack up and secure a 2x truck.

    Rear (your only) differential; drain and refill with 75-90(ish) gear oil. Go synthetic if you want…. $50-$100. Add 1/2 hour while you’re doing the tranny.

    Brake fluid replacement. Get a couple bottles of DOT 3, a line wrench, and a pedal pumper kid. Techstream if you want to be fancy. $15 or so. It’s easy, but intimidating the first time. Two hours if you rotate the tires at the same time.

    Spark plugs; go with Denso. I get mine through NAPA for about $11 per if I remember correctly. So, $90 an hour is plenty.

    Cabin air filter is maybe $25 on Amazon. If this takes more than 5 minutes, you were distracted.

    Engine air filter is about the same cost…. Another 5 minute job while your oil is draining.

    Oil (engine) change is also easy; two big jugs of synthetic 0w-20 or 5w-20 and a filter will run you about $80. Less if you get your oil from Costco. No need to get fancy here. Tundra motors don’t fail from oil issues…. Worst case, an hour. do with the tranny and rear diff since you’re on jackstands…


    You can do all of this on a Saturday for about $525 if you’ve got the basic ability to tackle it. Paying a reputable shop for all that? I’d expect them to bill you a full 8 hours at somewhere in the $150/hour range, maybe a bit more these days. Call it a grand.

    So, $500 on your own, or $1,500 at a shop. And that’s doing a fair poke more than the Toyota quote you’ve gotten. Personally, I’d prefer to do it myself. Not so much for the financial gain, but because I know I won’t half ass it.


    I put my whole ass in when doing maintenance.
     
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  20. Jan 19, 2024 at 9:47 PM
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    Thanks @Chad D.
     
  21. Jan 19, 2024 at 10:34 PM
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    If you only do the items with oil, the service isn't that bad. The transmission is a bit higher than what I paid (250) and if you get a turkey baster the power steering fluid is pretty easy. FYI.
     
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  22. Jan 20, 2024 at 5:45 AM
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    I would agree with this, do the fluids. I also just had the fuel treatment done and my truck starts much better and gain 0.2 MPG. The spark plugs were also changed.
    Like other have said, most of the itmes there you can do. If you don't have a warm place to do it, I would take it somewhere.
    For me it's piece of mind that I have clean fluids in my truck, cheaper than one of those big items failing because the fluid was old.
     
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    Buy a K&N cabin air filter. I take mine out every Summer and wash it then let it dry and put back in, no oiling the filter just buy once!
     
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