Potential conflict?

I placed an order/build for a Tundra if offers different additional packages so this build is getting the advanced PKG w/ options, that includes tow mirrors (BSM) heated, folding ect. & load leveling rear height control Air suspension and Adaptive Variable suspension (AVS).
So my question to ya all is, with this option will it be in conflict with the additional OEM 3" lift kit?
Many thanks in advance.

 

I'm unaware if the adaptive suspension is on all 4 corners or just the rear. If it's on all 4 dampers, your options might be spacers and that's it. The air suspension would be in conflict with essentially any lift kit that included a rear lift. I believe Westcott has a lift option for the rear for Tundras equipped with AVS and air suspension, so maybe you could mix and match parts from them and the OEM kit to achieve a full lift? I think some people have also adjusted the level sensor arms on the air suspension and tricked the truck into lifting the rear end without any additional components, but I suspect this is far from ideal and may only be viable (or comfortable) with a small increase in height.

I think the general consensus though is that you should avoid any fancy suspension systems if your goal is to lift your vehicle. You gotta decide if you want those systems or a lift.

 

Air/avs will definitely limit your options for lifting. The TRD lift is definitely a no go.
But there are still several options for lifts i.e. Westcott, Rough country and Readylift.

 

Thanks for the info and it looks like the AVS will have to take the back seat on this one and the priority will be a 3" kit with 35's.

 

What will you be using the truck/ lift for? If its purely for around town mall flexing get the AVS kit and toss the westcott kit on. If its for real offroad use skip the AVS and get a real full lift kit

 

I'll be honest with you,at this point in my life this will probably be my last full size pick and I'm going balls deep on this one I ordered a Capstone and wanted this order with advanced package with options and not knowing any better also wanted the lift so I could put 35's on the 22's that it comes with it.
Around here where I live it's all national sea shores and dunes so it would be put to mild use from April-October and we get snow here in New England too but not true running through the woods.
So the bottom line is I would like a lux truck that wouldn't have problems with putting 35's on it.
If I can keep the AVS,load leveling & put spacers in and put 35's on then hell yeah I will go that way but Im not sure if they'd fit up.

This is all pretty much new to me and all of the stuff I've modified before has been strictly street $hit so bare with me on this.

 

Not sure about 35s with the offset of the stock 22s. Would imagine you'd be fine... Maybe have a look around the wheel and tire thread for that. But with one of the lifts mentioned above you can indeed keep avs and load leveling with 35s. Many have even run 35s on stock suspension with very minimal modification. I've run both the Westcott 2/1 and now the Rough Country 3.5" with 35s on a Platinum with avs/air. Westcott wasn't a bad ride necessarily, definitely noticed a rougher ride though. The RC feels every bit as good as stock. Some people loathe Rough Country, but they are quality/affordable for what they are. There's a thread about leveling with air/avs you might want to look at as well. No matter what route you go come back and post pictures.

 

Did you leave a deposit with salesman or something? Toyota doesn’t do orders you just go on a list and wait for similar allocation. Alot of combinations you can build on Toyota.com may not exist and/or never make it to your area. The salesman, if a close enough model is coming in, would ping you to see if you’re interested and likely would have different options then you may ideally want, which in 2022 some models had multi year wait lists.

 

Funny that you mention this.
Yes 02/06/2023 I gave the salesman my ppw print out of Build your toyota and selected what I would like and he said said huh,never knew this existed...
Go figure I'm know figuring out that I'm going to be "That Guy" ...

Oh boy I can feel this hole vortex of black shit storm coming now.
Ok so here it is,yesterday I get an email from the dealership from someone different not my salesman and he writes saying I'm looking to find you a white capstone.
So I'm thinking well I ordered one so why find one?
Plus I ordered a Wind chill white one,so now I'm like ok WTF is going on here...

So I printed out his email and what I gave the salesman 2 months ago and pay a visit (kindly) find the email sender and asked him if everything is OK and why ask the questions he sent me.
He told me he found one in a different part of the country in WCP and with AVS and asked if I wanted to proceed, he also stated that he didn't think the lift kit might have potential conflict....
Huh go figure hence this whole thread that I started...

 

I have a platinum with air ride / avs set up as well. I am looking for lift kit in order to fit 35”. Can you share a link for the RC 3.5” lift kit pleas? How do you like your RC kit compared to Westcott?

 

Your truck will handle 35's regardless w/o a lift 12.5 might not fit at full lock but maybe 11.5 < will, hopefully other's will chime in on this and will be of help with more accuracy.
Currently I still have the OEM rubber bands on 265/50 R22 and i'm pretty much content with the AVS ride thus far,before I received the truck I was talking with Dave @ Cornfed.com and they have been working on a 2/1 lift that is compatible with AVS.Just so you know there are a bunch of other aftermarket Co's that make them and are compatible.I almost pulled the trigger on putting this on my truck but I didn't.
So here's the deal, if you lift it or even put spacers in your truck and do not go with Toyo's OEM lift you can kiss your warranty good by.I don't feel like getting caught with my pants down around my ankles and getting fisted or even hearing those words from the Stealership with only a few thousand miles on my truck.I dunno about you & maybe it's just me but I can't justify spending $ to jack up my truck and more $ for matching sneakers so I can roam the dunes & beaches and the rear "mild off road" trips for something stupid to happen like a legit Toyota problem and they pass the buck and say this is all on you, these parts failed because of the load and stress you put on the truck components regardless of how high or miniscule you lifted it but it did and here you are.
To spend extra money for something you want is one thing but to burn money on something that could of been prevented is a kick in the balls in my short book.

So back to lifting it, this is still the cross road to pass, either I put larger tires on and call it a day or get I the OEM lift and disable the AVS which I have no idea what if or there will be any noticeable difference in sport+ mode or how smooth the ride will be in comfort mode that it will make.
I still haven't decided what I'm going to do.

 

Thanks. Very good thought. Perhaps I should wait on the lift kit or at least do more research.

do you know if with stock wheels, what kind of 35” tires can fit without messing with any kind of lift or leveling? And the same for aftermarket 18” wheels and 35” tires combo.

 

There are a lot of Guru's here that will help you dial in on your question for an exact tire size for you and this will bump up the overall height of it,not much & you will still have the same rake angle and it won't void the warranty.
Shit maybe I'm wrong with this whole warranty bullshit, in fact I hope that I am but don't feel that I am.

 

If my primary off roading was dunes, I would skip the 22’s. Airing down a 35” tire on a 22” rim doesn’t really have the same effect as airing down a 35” tire on sub 20” rims. Need that tire to spread a little and provide some floatation on the sand.

 

Agreed 110% Brother Agreed.
I understand the principles whole heartedly, these places that I had mentioned is a bunny trail so to speak of compared to true dunes to have fun and tare it up.This would be just be for transportation to locations to set up and hang out for the day/night definitely not for ripping it up like one would want to,keep in mind I live in Assachusetts the red tape from tree huggers,bird lovers and anything eles that crawls under the sun would have their undies up in a bunch to no end.

At first I wasn't a big fan of getting 22's for stock rims and the tires could definitely use some meat on them but they sure do look sexy & very proportional looking on it. You wouldn't believe how many times I've been asked about them sitting at a traffic light or a parking lot and surprised look I get when I say there Toyota rims,the best way to compare it it looks like a life sized "Hot wheels truck" that you got as a kid.

I dunno what the hell I'm going to do but it will happen before the first snow fall.