What happened to the TSB sticky?

sirlinus · Aug 16, 2023

Can't find the TSB sticky any longer ... was it taken down?

Roborob70 · Aug 16, 2023

It wasn't sticky enough to hang around.....

T-Rex266 · Aug 16, 2023

Toyota said no more of those due to the TIS subscription

TRDFerguson · Aug 16, 2023

T-Rex266 said: ↑

Toyota said no more of those due to the TIS subscription
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Oof… so I guess those posts weren’t actually… OFFICIAL?

Kap1 · Aug 16, 2023

Yeah... Unfortunately, Ryan who was posting it all was nicely asked to stop and delete everything. Very sad

Henry2019 · Aug 16, 2023

T-Rex266 said: ↑

Toyota said no more of those due to the TIS subscription
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TIS subscription?

Soupbean77 · Aug 17, 2023

So…. Toyota owns this site..?

nodak67 · Aug 17, 2023

most likely since it toyota proprietary info and have trademark logo and stuff, lawyers probably went after the forum. i guess the only way around it was to remove any logo's and what not to point back to toyota.

that would have been more hassle than anything. would mean the person posting would have to cherry pick the info from tsb, etc to post it to make it look very generic.

Soupbean77 · Aug 17, 2023

I see. Maybe rename it… (unofficial TSB list)..
Either way, that’s ridiculous

nodak67 · Aug 17, 2023

Soupbean77 said: ↑

I see. Maybe rename it… (unofficial TSB list)..
Either way, that’s ridiculous
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had nothing to do with the thread title. it was actual tsb printouts that was posted to the forums.

War Machine · Aug 17, 2023

T-Rex266 said: ↑

Toyota said no more of those due to the TIS subscription
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Did you ask them where my second key fob is?

nodak67 · Aug 17, 2023

they probably got them on this per tis rules of using tis

also doesnt help the basic account is still expensive for regular users. $505 for a year sub.
Code:
Subscription Type     Standard     Professional Diagnostic     Security Professional*

2 Day                 $25          $70                         $70
Monthly               $95          NA                          NA
Yearly                $505         $1360                       $1360
4. CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE TIS SITES.

You acknowledge that TIS Sites constitute valuable trade secrets to TMS. You expressly acknowledge that all information and data in or on the TIS Sites is confidential and proprietary and that You (i) shall not disclose such information or data in any form to any person or entity unless expressly approved by TMS in writing, (ii) shall not use such information or data for Data Mining. Data Mining means the use of any processes, software or techniques to aggregate, collect, search through, or analyze the information or data to discover patterns, correlations or relationships, including to predict outcomes), (iii) shall make no attempt to, nor permit others to, examine, copy or alter the TIS Sites, except as provided for by these Terms of Use or as otherwise agreed to by TMS in writing, and (iv) shall use Your best efforts to protect TIS and maintain its confidentiality.

USE OF THE TIS SITES FOR MARKETING PURPOSES IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. UNAUTHORIZED DOWNLOADING IS PROHIBITED. IF YOUR ACCOUNT USAGE DEMONSTRATES EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, YOUR ACCOUNT MAY BE AUTOMATICALLY AND PERMANENTLY DISABLED BY TMS WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU. In addition, you agree to comply with all applicable laws, regulations and other legal requirements relating to your access to and use of the TIS Sites.

10. RESTRICTIONS ON ACCESSING AND USING TIS.

As a condition to accessing and using the TIS Sites in accordance with the license granted to You under these Terms of Use, You agree to comply with the following rules:

General Obligations to Safeguard the TIS Sites.

When setting up and using Your TIS account:

Assign and select passwords in accordance with the requirements set forth by TMS.

Choose passwords that are reasonably designed to maintain the security of the access controls to the TIS system.

Do notshare, obtain or use, or attempt to share, obtain or use, another person’s TIS related access credentials or passwords.

Do notshare Your access credentials to the TIS system with any other person.

Do notenable access to any data in or on the TIS Sites on behalf of any individual or third party in violation of these Terms of Use.

When accessing or using data in TIS:

You agree to comply with (i) all policies and procedures, manuals, marketing letters, financial services bulletins, dealer letters, and other instructions from TMS and (ii) all applicable laws, regulations and other legal requirements relating to Your access to and use of the TIS Sites;

Do notuse, reproduce, disclose, share, transfer, or retain data sourced from TMS/USA except, in each case, as specifically authorized by these Terms of Use and (i) in accordance with both (a) applicable laws, rules and regulations; and (b) TMS’s standards, policies, procedures, guidelines and recommendations.

Do notData Mine (Data Mining as defined in Section 2, Confidentiality of Dealer).

Do notaccess or use, or attempt to access or use, data owned by any third party, other than the party authorizing Your access for valid business purposes, except as specifically authorized in writing by TMS.

Do notrent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute or sublicense TIS or any part of the TIS Sites.

Do notcopy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create derivative works of TIS or any part of the TIS Sites, or any updates, or any part thereof.

Do notintegrate or automate use of the TIS Sites using any integration methods that are not expressly approved by TMS.

Do notaccess or use (or attempt to use) the TIS Sites:

For any unauthorized, fraudulent or malicious purpose.

In a manner that could damage, disable, overburden or impair the TIS systems.

In such a manner as to interfere unreasonably with the use of the TIS Sites by one or more of the authorized users of TIS.

Do notuse or attempt to use any methods to access or make use of the TIS Sites that are not authorized by TMS, including, but not limited to, screen scraping and scripting or any other process that could result in unauthorized access to the TIS Sites or negatively impact the performance of the TIS system.

Do notenable or permit (i) any additional third party integration of; (ii) third party modification of; (iii) creation of derivative use functionality for; or (iv) creation of third party solutions for any of the TIS systems and applications or for purposes of enabling or permitting extraction or transmission of data stored in or on the TIS Sites.

Do not(i) frame or use framing techniques to enclose any part of the TIS Sites, or (ii) link or “deeplink” to, or otherwise reproduce, any part of the TIS Sites, without TMS’s prior written consent.

Do notuse any Personal Information available through the TIS Sites for any purpose other than to fulfill your valid job duties.

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fyrfytr26 · Aug 17, 2023

nodak67 said: ↑

they probably got them on this per tis rules of using tis
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Exactly. It’s really not information intended for the general public. It’s diagnostic information for service professionals.

Even TSBs are just a part of the diagnostic process. Just because a vehicle exhibits symptoms similar to those described in the TSB doesn’t mean that the TSB automatically applies. And a TSB is not something you can just run to the dealer and expect them to perform the described repair because it might apply to your vehicle.

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