Tundras live: Dumb Dad Jokes, Incorrect Opinions, Relationship Advice, and Parking Etiquette

Sucks living in Colo-fornia, eh?

When I got my Tundra I transferred my plates to save about $300, and the trades I did made my tax liability for the truck just under 5 bucks.

 

Yep, welcome to the money grab. Just like every time a vehicle gets sold, someone pays sales tax.
Think of how much the state makes over the life of a vehicle.

 

Looks great, I love that front end! Got any other pictures?
Has he mentioned how he likes the power of the flat 4?

 

Yeah, IDK why they didn't give the Forester the turbo. I think it looks way better than the Outback, but I'd have to get the Outback just for the power.

 

The wilderness actually has a different CVT with manual shifting available.

Would not be wheeling it though, light trails and FS roads would be the worst of it.
Mainly a kid/dog hauler.

 

Yeah, kind of a bummer. My wife wouldn't care though.
We would get the Forrester for looks/room.

 

The shifting is all simulated anyway, and it will still cut power if the CVT is heating up. Not a concern with your use case, though. If that were all I required, I'd rock one. They look good and the body cladding actually protects you from having a chipped up paint job. Subie paint chips SUPER easily. My WRX taught me that.

 

I'm actually getting excited about it with the big cargo space, higher clearance, awd. Should be fun with our winters.
Just need to test drive a Forrester with the flat 4 then I'll start getting serious

 

It will usually only do it under load like pulling it's bulk up a hill at low speed. Very situational, but it's the worst situations to cut power that it will do it in. Bombing snow drifts shouldn't be a problem. I'm not surprised you didn't have any issues either, as it is not a huge factor. More of a minor irritant that I would rather avoid completely.

 

The Subie Boxers are pretty good. Don't abuse it, keep up on maintenance, and you'll go many 100Ks, but when you do have to fix stuff I have heard they are a bitch to work on. I didn't own mine long enough to find out. Learned the same thing as @LarryDangerfield ; I want a truck. As a secondary rig, I'd be all about the Outback wilderness, and if there were a way to turbo the Forester I'd be on it like white on rice in a snowstorm.

 

What's the other engine they put in those?

 

I think that's it for the Forrester

 

Only one option for the Forrester.

 

Never really thought about that, but I bet a CVT remedies the turbo lag pretty well.

 

How the hell are you going to fit into one of those?

 

I know, I know.
More money, less mpg's and a little less cargo room make it a hard sell though.

 

Just got back from a 3 mile walk. Temps are coming up now and the air smells like a camp fire. Starting to see ash on my truck and my throat is a bit scratchy. That's all the outside stuff for me today...

 

More headroom and legroom than a Tundra CM, no joke!

 

We have bay scallops and sea scallops here. The bay scallops are much smaller, but I think they're tastier.

 

*for the front seats, nothing compares to the rear legroom in a CM.

Tundra front hr/lr : 39.7"/42.5"
Forrester front hr/lr: 41.2"/43.3"
Pretty surprising numbers.

 

Hmmmm..... In my Tacoma research I am finding somethings that are making me think.

The obvious choice for a Taco (buying new) is the TRD Pro or the TRD Off Road, right? These net you the off road goodies, BUT only in the automatic. If you get a stick you lose the multi-terrain-mode (MTM), crawl control, and the ETC, which all kinda makes sense given that you have manual control of the gears. Both have ATRAC and the locking rear diff. You get a little better gearing in the manual, at the price of a little worse MPG. Auto is $50,625 MSRP (includes delivery) and the stick is $47,920. That's a straight savings of $2705 at the cost of some MPG and convenience.

I'm torn. My buddy's SR with none of the off road goodies did just fine with an automatic transmission going up and down a trail that had plenty of pucker in the Tundra. The Taco felt way more stable because of the lower center of gravity, and the smaller size was shockingly apparent. I blew that off when choosing the Tundra over the Taco. "Tundra can go wherever a Taco can" I told myself, and maybe it can, but not nearly as easily or gracefully.

I would consider a Trail Edition because it has the locker, but it's only available in an auto, and if I get an auto I'd rather to the Off Road and get the terrain modes and cameras. Built it out with top package for NAV, Leather, MTM, and such, and it sits at $45,640 in an auto or $43,370 in a stick with the same package. Thing is, the advanced tech package loses the MTM in a stick so I don't know what it could be adding beyond the regular technology package that is almost a grand less. So, going down a package for that puts the TRD OR in a really loaded up position with the stick at a $42,470 price point.







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TLDR:

TRD Pro Auto

• $50,625 MSRP
  
• All the goodies

TRD Pro Stick

• $47,920
  
• Lose MTM, Crawl Control, and 1 MPG

TRD Off Road Auto

• $45,640
  
• All the Pro goodies besides the Pro Skid plate, Fox Shocks, nice/light wheels, Lift, and Upper Control Arms... you know all the stuff I'd have to spend money to add.

TRD Off Road Stick

• $42,470
  
• Same as the auto minus the MTM and Crawl Control

I bought my Tundra for $41,XXX and I've checked KBB that puts it around $37K-38K trade in, cross referenced that with 2019s with 30K-50K miles selling for $45K-$49K. This doesn't account for my better wheels, tires, lift, and armor, however, I still owe about $13,400. I'm not thinking a dealership is going to hook me up with a Pro in a straight swap, but maybe if they see the value of the mods as something they can use to inflate their used price. Speaking with a buddy he brought me around to my true financial allowances for the swap, and I'd be willing to do my truck plus $5000 to get into a Pro. What are your thoughts? Think I can pull it off? Which trim and trans do you think I might be able to get if I pull the trigger?

 

Is there an SAE standard for measuring those? Cuz I call BS

 

I always use Edmonds to find out vehicle specs so you would think they would have a standard way of measuring every vehicle the same.
Not sure on SAE though.