Mandrel-Bent Air Intake Tubes for our Turbos?

I usually use zero-restriction air tubes in my Toyotas for the air intake, I have noticed improvements in torque and response. For the 22 Tundras, while my truck did come with the TRD filters, I don't really like the air tubes with all of their restrictions/"folds". I have looked into options and did see the AFE MOMENTUM GT SERIES AIR INTAKE, but that is way overkill for me. I do not want to entirely replace the air boxes or filters (especially not for over $600!). I'm just looking for the tubes. If you have seen any options I'd love some links or guidance. Thanks!

 

If I had to guess, Toyota did just fine on the intake. Not to say its good up to 600 hp, but I bet for the stock tune it works extremely well and probably better that any aftermarket unit. If you were chasing maximum HP then maybe an aftermarket unit would outperform it up top. Just because its not a straight mandrel bent tube doesnt mean its not the best setup for turbo spool up and mid range power.

Also, I really dont like AFE. They are overpriced and underperform in my experience. I had an AFe intercooler on my F150 Ecoboost and it was a complete piece of crap and is probably the most expensive unit out there by a couple hundred dollars. I replaced it with a unit that goes for literally 1/2 the price and it performs significantly better. I also have an AFe intake on my Lexus GX and again, the price is ridiculous and the quality is not up to par with the S&B intake on my F150, which cost 2/3 the price even when I got the AFe on sale during black friday.

 

There's just no need to mess with the intake system on these trucks unless you are doing a full build out of the motor. Leave it alone.

 

have any proof?

 

Lots of experience with tuning and being around high performance Raptors. Intake has never been a problem, and is engineered for the best mix of longevity/performance. OEM engineer's do an excellent job and spend more money on R&D than any of us could put into our own research concerning the intakes. I'll let their results speak for themselves. You want easy power then upgrade intercoolers, turbos, remove exhaust restrictions.

 

so the short answer is no

 

Do you have any proof its worth wasting time and money on random intake tubes that are not engineer by the largest auto company in the world and who know the exact specifications of their turbos? That seems to be the real question.

 

Im not the one making any baseless claims. Im simply asking for proof of a statement.

 

no proof at all, but giving turbo a few more psi is way cheaper and easier then redo all those piping...lol

 

So no then?

 

Next time I won't make any claims without an engineered white paper. Now I hope you can provide your data. Since I at least have a plethora of anecdotal evidence available. Reach out to someone like Goosetuned, who sells tunes and not intakes like AMS or Cobb. Then ask what is recommended to see reliable horsepower gains, and intakes are almost never the answer.

 

https://afepower.com/afe-power-50-70100r-momentum-gt-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5r-filters

Find something proving otherwise. Looks like there was room for improvement to me

 

different platform. You have zero experience with these engines. Im not saying theres something to gain, Im simply saying you really dont know for certain and have no actual proof to back up your claim.

 

Hey dudes I really apologize for causing this strife! Obviously we all have opinions and experiences with intakes and I definitely think there’s room for all of us to agree (even if to disagree!). Personally I saw (what I personally perceived to be) real, tangible improvements on my 4runner and Sequoia when I swapped the stock constrictive air input tubes with less constrictive tubes. Those baffles, IMHO create blockages in the flow and result in less performance. I don’t want to swap the filters or boxes but I would be interested in replacement tubes only when those become available. I agree that Toyota invests more than we ever can in R&D! I also feel that Toyota sometimes leans on the side of caution and conservatism in their design, where I have really enjoyed adding headers, exhausts, intake manifolds and a ton more to boost power, and I’m excited to do the same w/this Gen Tundra, excited to learn what options are out there! Cheers dudes!!

 

I don’t have a 3rd gen so I can’t speak from experience, but in general principle I’d have to agree with the sentiment that the stock intake probably isn’t holding you back in power department. I only say that because I’m making 180-200hp over stock with my truck and it’s using the bone stock intake box pulling all of the air from a 3.5” hole just like the NA trucks do. I still make the proper amount of boost quoted by the manufacturer with the pulley I’m using. I do plan to upgrade to a larger intake, but not because it’s a restriction but because the increased airflow across the MAF in the stock sized tube is greater than it can accurately read unless I get a larger tube and scale for it. With forced induction, if the turbos/supercharger want air than they will probably pull it one way or another.

 

Looks like that is the entire intake system including filters, not just the intake tubes. Seems obvious that a filter swap to something less restrictive will increase power.