Are you going to keep your 2022?

I have the air suspension on mine and think the ride is exceptionally smooth. It was actually the main quality that made the Tundra an easy sale for my wife. Could something be wrong with the truck? Maybe worth looking into, it's not like hearing of another 22 problem would be a clutch the pearls moment, lol.

 

Check your local car audio shop. Places like Best Buy have them too.

I do kind of miss it...

 

I plan on keeping mine, I have about 8k miles on mine and I really enjoy it.

 

I'm still waiting on mine to be delivered to the dealership so I have been geeking out on youtube and reading every thread on this board to fuel my excitement. As soon as you see one negative video on youtube about the Tundra, all the negative videos start getting recommended. A lot of them are guys complaining about a hump on the floor or a fisheye in the paint on the bottom side of the tailgate that you can't see unless you're standing on one foot on a 37 degree incline at 6:37pm.

What I'm getting out of this thread is the people who actually own and drive these trucks generally like them, with a few exceptions of course. So even with the negative videos out there from the salesmen at the Ford dealership, I'm still pretty pumped on the delivery.

 

What a time to be alive when driving a brand new truck with less than 10k miles and no issues is a talking point. This coming from a guy that needed every valve and a cylinder head replaced in his '18 Tacoma at 17.5k miles, O2 sensor went out at 43K.

 

I am not sure why you would sell a truck until you knew it was going to be unreliable. Are you ever really in a situation where it would be that big of a problem? If a turbo started to fail you can still get home. What other concern is there with the new engine besides turbos?

Even the worst problems the Ecoboosts have had almost never result in the truck sitting on the side of the road. Cam phasers, timing chains, turbos, manifolds, etc are all things that will give you warning and, worst case, you can limp home. The phasers and timing chains could literally be ignored for years in some cases if you just didnt wanna repair it.

Everything else I have heard issues with on these trucks certainly sounds like early production growing pains that are fixed in production once the issue is discovered.

 

Some of us actually live and work in remote places, so reliability isn't something I want to wait to find out isn't an attribute of this truck. I likely can't get home if the truck goes into limp mode, blows a turbo or waste gate fails, or have a front differential/axle problem. Reliability matters to me, and shouldn't be something where I have to always have concern in the back of my mind when I'm 120 miles from the closest town and it's all back roads with no cell service.

And once you know a vehicle is unreliable, how do you get rid of it? Who wants to buy a truck that's lived in the service shop?

 

Gone…and now waiting to get in a 23 hybrid

 

Hey, is that a dig at me!?

But agree, for the short period of time I owned mine, I loved it, until my diff went at 700 miles, thankfully I was just leaving my place and was able to turnaround and come back home. I do still have my '23 on order and hopefully I'll love that one as much as I did my '22 without the issues.

 

No digs, just reality for some of us! I really hope that your '23MY is a better truck from day 1. Mine is relatively problem free besides some quirky things and the dust behind the screen, but these other stories make me very weary.

 

So you should sell the truck now then. You wouldnt wanna get stranded by an unsuspecting limp mode or wait until it has 50 issues and no one wants it.

Last time I went camping I towed my travel trailer out 90 miles one way from the last gas station or town I passed and dragged it 10 miles in on a dirt road in the middle of the desert with no cell service. I carry a cell phone booster, a Garmin inReach mini and radios. I also carry an array of tools and fluids just in case. But I do it without worry that my trucks gunna leave me stranded. I do it incase someone is injured to I got stuck somewhere remote.

I routinely go snow wheeling in the middle of the winter in a national forest with no cell service in a 1995 4Runner that drinks more oil than gas. I bet I could resell that no problem

Somehow Ford, GM and Ram keep selling hundreds of thousands of highly unreliable trucks every year, if you go by this forum. And people have no problems reselling them or buying new ones.

If your diff goes, pull a driveshaft. You're in all these remote areas and don't have tools with you? If your turbo truely, catastrophically fails like that with no warning then that sucks but you could get somewhere to get help. Personally its not something I have heard of happening. They generally die a slow death and let you know.

 

Also, why would you buy the first year of a completely ground up design if you are this worried about it and it was that critical that absolutely nothing ever go wrong.

 

Because I like new vehicles, and Toyota historically has built it's reputation on "reliability". I have tools with me, as I run a process piping engineering company, but I'm not in the business of being a part time mechanic. My '21 Raptor, I have none of these same concerns even though it's a first MY of a new gen truck. So all of your points are noted, but not part of my process for assessing whether or not a vehicle is fit for service. Had a been aware of these problems prior to purchase, I would not have bought the truck. As I've also stated, the truck has many redeeming features. I'm by no means here to bash the truck. The point of starting this thread was to evaluate the average buyers sentiment of their '22 Tundra and it's reliability through an informal survey.

 

I have zero concerns, because Toyota's reputation isn't only about reliability, but also how they handle issues that do come up. The axle recall issue is a good example IMO. Almost every single Tundra built prior to July was recalled to make sure those nuts were torqued to spec, but how many posts and comments have been made on this site alone by people that checked theirs before taking it in for service and found they were already good? Another brand might have done a smaller recall and only extended it after some one else's axle fell off.

I have more confidence in Toyota identifying any possible widespread issues, and also providing a quick resolution to them, than I do for any of the other brands.

 

The thread question is good, but I've felt like for a long time that the perception of Gen 3 problems didn't match the actuality. And if I were going to hinge my decision on anything it's not going to be the possible problems I'll run into, but the actual ones I have.

Given that distinction:

• If my truck isn't experiencing those problems am I going to sell my truck? No.
• If my truck begins to experience reliability problems, and the repair time/inconvenience starts to be come really untenable would I sell my truck? Yes.

TLDR: The reality of my truck's reliability will always dictate my decision beyond the perception of other people's problems. There's a point at which the cost/benefit equation changes the side of the scale when those reliability issues become real for me.

So far my impact has been: 1 software flash recall, and waiting for a new radio unit to replace the one i have with dead pixels. My cost? Time waiting.

 

My wife mostly drives our G3 1794, I drive an F350, always enjoy the cadillac ride hopping in the tundra.

 

I’d guess the same thing any website, cellphone or smart device is. While also providing some data on how the vehicle is used.

 

Probably the same thing Google is doing with all the data they're collecting from my phone.

The app still isn't working for me. When I'm on my next days off, I'll call them and give them one last chance to sort it out. Otherwise I'll be disabling all services and installing an aftermarket remote starter.

 

In my estimation, probably the following 5 things:
1) Using it to drive understanding of their consumers behavior, locations, associations, shopping habits
2) Taking that data and using it to market their goods
3) Selling that data to other compaines for marketing their goods
4) Probably not securing it all that well
5) Thinking of ways to create new products that require subscriptions to generate recurring revenue based on your data

Things they're probably not doing but should:
1) Use the travel data to understand trends in the stock market and when to go long or short on a stock. Less toyota customers stopping at their normal retailer's parking lots (walmart or costco, time to go short on retail), less gas station fuel ups then time to focus on fuel efficient car marketing.
2) Utilizing migration data to understand real-estate trends and sell this data to realtors
3) Figuring out how to create an electric charging network based on common travel patterns

 

Wait a minute you live/work in a super remote area and prioritize reliability…. and purchased the most complicated and least off road capable Tundra trim possible: a Capstone?

Before you get all axle wrapped worrying about turbos failing (seems to be less of an issue than we thought: https://www.tundras.com/threads/2022-gen-3-turbocharger-failure-list.102563/ ), or front and rear axles I suggest you worry about the wheels and tires you are running around on.

22” donk wheels and low profile tires are about the worst possible choice in footwear for a truck in any situation. They’re just plain stupid from a function standpoint even on the road, more rotational mass, less tire sidewall to soak up impacts, poor ride etc. Off road or on gravel, and unimproved roads they’re a strait up liability. You’re more likely to get a bent wheel or blown out tire on those in a remote area than blow up a turbo, or have an axle issue.

Go buy some 18”s or 20”s, mount appropriate rubber on them like a good set of all terrains and drive your truck. Chances are pretty good it will have no issues. Change your oil every 5K, use good quality fuel, and live your life.

 

I have a '21 Raptor with 17" wheels and 37" tires, so the Tundra doesn't HAVE to be my work truck. Capstone doesn't have any technological liabilities over the platinum or 1794, just different interior leather. It's 2022, I shouldn't have to purchase the SR5 to have any peace of mind if Toyota reliability engineering can do their jobs. I did not opt for the air suspension. And if I keep the truck I will put 17's on it with Toyo AT3's, don't worry. And thanks for the preventative maintenance 101 course.

 

Plan to keep it a long time unless I see more people having issues from basic levels and 35” tires.
If that’s the case I’ll be getting rid of it immediately.

 

I suspect that if the truck is going to give you problems it will do it sooner than later. Probably a good call avoiding the air suspension, but my experience with those is in late 90’s and early 2000’s Range Rovers, and Mercedes S Class sedans. All of which were nightmares that incinerated cash, leading to the cars being traded in where I worked.

On maintenance 101, Toyota and other manufacturers claim a 10,000 mile oil change interval. This is a bad idea, please don’t treat your vehicle that way. I’ve seen enough valve covers opened up on a variety of engines treated that way to not want to see any more of them.

 

9,000 miles and loving mine more every day. Smooth, quiet ride, great power band, giant volume knob(!), on and on. Are there a few things I would change? Of course. But, overall, I am very pleased and hope to keep it for the long haul. I usually run about 10 years between vehicles ('96 F-150, '07 Titan, '22 Tundra).

I am anxious to see the redesigned Tacoma and 4Runner, though. May change my plans!

 

speaking of that issue…”is it still a one off or did more crop up?”

 

Still just one issue as far as I know.

The idea of it is so ridiculous that I’m hoping/assuming it stays just one issue.

I’m trying to convince myself that there’s no damn way Toyota is actually manufacturing a $55k+ truck that has parts that shit the bed in 10k miles because the customer puts a leveling kit and 35” tires on it.

 

Plan on keeping mine for a long time. Traded in a ‘18 Silverado and wouldn’t go back. It’s faster, more fun, more comfortable, better looking, and more refined. The interior is so classy looking. When the turbos start to whine it really gets fun! The gas mileage has improved to around 18 on average to 22 on the highway. Loving it!

 

I actually finally reached my breaking point with my six month old 2022 and traded it today for a Lexus SUV. There just been so many problems with this Platinum including severe brake noise, now the electronic brake issue, finding decent service (Which I recently did and shared with the board),the body side molding coming up on every door, the terrible infotainment , and starting to already see wear on the seats and so many other quality control problems I’ve had enough. Funny thing is in the Dallas area there are a lot of Platinums for sale used. I was surprised to find this out when I was researching what my truck is worth.

Now I have a Toyota brand tonneau cover, a bed mat and a catalytic converter shield that I don’t know what to do with. I guess I should just sell all three. Can anyone share with me the best place to sell these at? I just want to sell them all together in one swoop.

 

Hybrid? If so I’ll take the cat plate

 

No it's gas and I am hoping to sell all three to one person. Too much trouble selling them separately.

Lesson I learned is to never buy the first year of a new ground up vehicle.