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Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Jbhoops, Jul 22, 2022.

  1. Jul 22, 2022 at 8:47 PM
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    Hey guys have 2002 2wd access cab. What's the most I can pull that will not hurt the transmission. I'm looking at 5000lbs gvw max travel trailer 4100 dry weight.
     
  2. Jul 22, 2022 at 10:29 PM
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    Is it a 4.7l or 3.4l? Does it have the factory tow package? If not you might want to look into putting an auxiliary trans oil cooler. Also might be worth grabbing a scanguage to monitor temps and such.
     
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  3. Jul 22, 2022 at 11:31 PM
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    4.7. I added the factory tow hitch off another truck.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2022 at 1:27 AM
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    Do you have the owners manual? It should have the towing and capacity chart listed for each model, so you may need to do a tiny bit of reading. I believe a 4.7 automatic transmission access cab four wheel drive is 7000-7100 lbs depending on trim (SR5, Limited). As for not wanting to hurt the transmission, bring the service up to date with a fluid exchange, make sure it has a transmission cooler (if it doesn't already), and don't let it hunt for gears while towing. Turning off the overdrive and towing in D will help, but in some cases you could be find towing in OD, though it does add a fair bit of heat to the transmission. Heat is what kills most transmissions.
     
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  5. Jul 23, 2022 at 9:06 AM
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    I think I will be safe in the 5000lb zone. I do have a trans cooler up front. Maybe I will upgrade the transr cooler any suggestions that you guys have been using or is the factory sufficient?
     
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  7. Jul 27, 2022 at 9:36 AM
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    I wouldn’t even think about towing a 5k trailer with mine. Plus, loaded weight will be much more than you think.

    I tow a little pop up with mine and it’s supposed to weigh 1,900lbs. I went through a Cat Scale with it fully loaded with camp gear, and total vehicle weight was just under 9,000lbs.

    Friend has this setup, and he brings the kitchen sink. He said his 02’ does pretty ok. It’s on stock tires and he added airbags.

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  8. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:19 AM
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    What came with the tow package can I just add the stuff and increase my towing capacity
     
  9. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:35 AM
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    shifty` Just like witches at black masses

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    If your truck came with tow pkg, it'll list it in the build sheet when you sign up for Toyota Owners site @ https://www.toyota.com/owners

    But basically, it came with the hitch, two or three extra harnesses to adapt out your factory wiring to support trailering, a 5-or 7-prong receptacle (I forget), and wiring across the chassis, and under the dash to support adding a brake controller. There may be other stuff, but I forget. I looked all this stuff up w/ @daveeasa trying to see what'd be needed to add some of this to his truck. Lemme see if I can dig up the key pieces of that...
     
  10. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:36 AM
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    Thanks
     
  11. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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    This is what came with my 04 DC LTD.
    Your 01 pkg might be different but you could check your yr Brochure in the sticky threads.4D30BB66-BA4F-4595-9367-C690278332FD.jpg
     
  12. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:50 AM
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    Looks like I have a trans cooler and 100amp alternator but did not have hitch.
     
  13. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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    shifty` Just like witches at black masses

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    Here's what I dug up, this is for my '06 only, I really don't even know if your truck had the tow package option, or if this information will work for your truck!:

    The trailer receptacle harness part I have on my 2006 is 821690c020, it's the actual receptacle and pigtail to tie into the factory wiring out back.

    Here is the exploded diagrams for my truck showing the wiring parts: https://parts.toyota.com/a/Toyota_2..._52016_6711566/WIRING--CLAMP/841420-8202.html

    Looks like the wiring part is around $220 at my local dealership if I order through parts.toyota.com

    Here is the exploded diagrams for my truck showing the towing parts: https://parts.toyota.com/a/Toyota_2...179/REAR-BUMPER--BUMPER-STAY/841420-5253.html

    My local dealership (if I order through parts.toyota.com) sells the entire hitch subframe assembly with receiver and plug (part number 520230C041) for $1100. It includes all this (NOTE: Toyota's parts system says this only fits '02+ trucks):

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  14. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:53 AM
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    shifty` Just like witches at black masses

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    In '06 mine also included the larger alternator, 130A.
     
  15. Jul 27, 2022 at 10:55 AM
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    Ok looks like I can make it happen with a few parts already have tow hitch trans cooler and Alternator. Just need wiring
     
  16. Jul 27, 2022 at 11:01 AM
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    Here's the exploded for your truck: https://parts.toyota.com/a/Toyota_2..._52016_6711566/WIRING--CLAMP/841420-8202.html

    It looks like the part I listed (821690c020) is only for my truck, not your '01. Trying to see if I can look thru wiring images at that link to find the right harness.
     
  17. Jul 27, 2022 at 11:17 AM
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    daveeasa FBC Harness Solutions

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    I've recently narrowed this down as I may need to tow soon enough. There is an 11 position connector on the driver side of the rear bumper which has right turn, parking light, left turn and brake down one side then red, yellow, blue on the other side with a ground in the corner. Then the 3 large gauge has only the middle populated, presumably should be +12v but mine is not, I'm going to either try to add a fuse to get it alive or re-route it to fused battery power. That's the hookup for the controller which will combine brake and turn.

    Then there's a separate 6 position connector with 5 pinned in the center of the rear bumper which has ground, red, yellow, blue and red w white stripe which is reverse.

    The other 2 missing pieces for a 7 pin are +12v power (12 gauge or larger) and brake controller. I'll be on my own for those two but you can get 4 pin without that or 4 pin + reverse as well, just no brake controller of charger for brake controller battery.

    I have heaps of photos too, just adding color here. I don't have the 11 position terminals and connector yet, it's inbound to me now.

    My truck did not have the factory tow package so I'm assuming what I have is the same as anyone else who didn't have tow from the factory.

    Basically the confusing part was the 3 {red, yellow, blue} wires from the 11 to the 6, meant to feed parking light, L trailer (brake + turn) and R trailer (brake + turn) from the controller output to the connector feeding the trailer. That threw me for a loop until I understood the idea, plug in controller off to the side, plug in trailer in the center.
     
  18. Jul 27, 2022 at 12:22 PM
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    shifty`

    shifty` Just like witches at black masses

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    It's not one of these, is it?

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  19. Jul 27, 2022 at 1:43 PM
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    daveeasa FBC Harness Solutions

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    10988 might be the final 6. It’s the same as the taillight connectors as far as I could tell. The 11 position isn’t in there.
     
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