Lifts and big tires..

Just because there’s and impact break doesn’t mean the wheel has to be dented. The break is where it is because the wheel is what caused the break when the pothole or whatever was hit. We all hit potholes, road debris or whatever and depending on how it’s hit (angle, speed and so on) they’ll cause damage. The less sidewall the more susceptible to impact breaks they become. That damage isn’t from simple road wear, it’s a road hazard. The reason it’s still holding air is because the inner liner is still in tact. A bubble is another type of impact break. The tire gets pinched (same as above) causing damage to the inner liner which forces air into the body, blowing a bubble. Others aren’t lucky at all just get a blow out and end on the side of the road. I can go into even more detail about structures of tire and so on. At the end of the day buy whatever you want. I’m just saying the impact break you have wasn’t the tire manufacturers fault. Sorry you had to replace the tire so soon though, hopefully you had road hazard or some sort of protection from the dealer.

 

Salt Life again!? Haha

But seriously, I believe it’s the guys with a vertical Custom Wheel Offset sticker on the windshield.

 

Not to mention the whining noise that they can generate.

 

I just find it amusing. In my area, when you see a Salt Life sticker, it's generally attached to a brodozer that only leaves pavement to park in the dirt lot behind the bar.

 

When ever I see those stickers in central Texas I know I am getting close to a Walmart. Needs more tapout tshirts.

I guess the lesson of the day is not to buy a female a vehicle with 22s.

 

Oh ok that makes sense lol. Around here (North Texas) it’s been the jeeps and grocery getters not the trucks so much. It’s a Walmart sticker

 

If you really want to upgrade...there's plenty of upside in this market right now for sellers. You might have to pay TTL again, which sucks, but better to take advantage of the market now. Otherwise, you'll sit for awhile with regrets while the market cools (assuming it will) and then you'll end up losing value and paying more if you decide to pull the trigger on a CM. Just my advice.

My wife has this sticker on the back of her 4Runner. We used to live in Florida and she put this on to make fun of all the "Salt Life" stickers everywhere. That...and she also really likes rum. hahaha

 

That’s pretty funny. The first time I saw a Salt Life sticker I thought it said Slut Life because of the font. Now I see them everywhere and there’s no salt water in the area.

 

If you see someone step out of a brodozer with a Salt Life sticker on the truck AND they're wearing a bunch of Guy Harvey or Salt Life attire...then you've hit the holy trinity of South Florida.

 

I’m guessing white sunglasses and maybe some Hey Dudes as well

 

Another serious question like the OP, why are people flocking to pickups for offroading? I thought the general design of most pickups actually made it one of the worst platforms for offroading from the perspective of approach/departure/breakover angles.

That being said, you'd probably really want a pickup for overlanding with all that bed space.

 

I think a lot of people (I'm guilty of it too) use "off-roading" and "overlanding" fairly interchangeably.

If I was doing serious off-roading, like rock crawling or highly technical trails...you're right...I would not choose a full-size truck. I probably wouldn't even choose a mid-size truck (Taco, Gladiator, Ranger, etc) either.

I think people are flocking to full size (& mid size) trucks more for light off-roading because they want to carry more junk with them. Overlanding rigs carry 1k lbs (or more) of extra weight on them. People want their RTTs, MaxTracs, Rotopax, Dometic Refrigerators, and waterproof cases full of various odds & ends with them at all time. These folks are rarely doing anything really technical with them.

However, regarding my first point of full size trucks on really technical trails, here is an awesome video of a stock F-250 going up Hell's Gate in Moab. I love this because it proves that driver skill still plays a major role in off-roading. Worth the watch if you haven't seen it.

https://youtu.be/86lXvVIMmes

 

Overlanding is just the hipster term for car camping, and if you want to car camp over rough terrain (off roading) then you are correct; a pickup is a good choice. Off roading doesn't have to mean rock crawling.

 

I agree that the term "overlanding" has been usurped by many 20 or 30-something social media content creators who either have a ton of disposal income or who are sponsored to the hilt and who want to capitalize on the movement. However, true overlanding originated in Australia and legit overlanding is all about long period, off-grid endurance. It's a pretty cool thing to see if you ever get a chance. Australians have been doing it for decades and I'm sure they laugh at many American "overlanders."

 

For some people it starts with they want to take their stock truck at first to occasionally go camping off the beaten path. That's a normal truck use I think. Eventually it evolves into wanting to go further and further down the beaten path where your truck starts needing modifications like better suspension, then it snowballs from there.

For some, their truck is a money making tool during the weekdays and they use it for fun on the weekend. They can't afford, or don't see the point, in a second vehicle. If their work truck can do some fun off-roading on the weekend, they know it's limits, and don't plan to trash it, cool! More power to them if they can have fun on the weekends, then take it to the job on Monday and make money with it too.

 

All helpful responses above, thanks! Definitely was thinking "these have nothing on rock crawling Jeeps/4Runners" when I hear the term off-road being applied to pickups.

 

If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great video of a 2nd gen Tundra doing Hells Gate and some sand dune action. A decent jump in there, too, and no bent frame! The truck is bone stock down to the Michelins.

 

I lifted mine and larger tires for offroading purposes. I imagine most do it for looks. If it were just for looks i would not have done it because shes a pain to climb into

In regards to pickup for offroading, my truck is a swiss army knife. I need it to do everything. Its my family hauler, home depot getter, offroader , car camper , dump run rig , and my tow truck. A pickup was the only thing that could check all the boxes. I live in utah so i think my version of "offroading" is probably more off road than most, but im not going to be tackling level 8 trails anytime soon with it , probably correct there. I will take it wherever i can fit it , and probably some places i shouldnt. Ill go until its obvious i shouldnt. Would a jeep have been better for offroading? Absolutely. But it would have been way more of a compromise in all the other stuff.

 

Haha, yeah I've seen videos of longterm overlanders bragging about their van and truck builds but what I don't see is how they do their body functions when there's rain sleet hail snow. When you gotta go you can't hold it like a dog. We tried vanlife for a few months but using a portapotty was awful. We have an offroadable Winnebago 1706fb I can drag into some pretty remote spots then unhook and explore with the various lifted vehicles we've owned (hey, so I did actually address the original question). I do lifts for the reasons stated in previous posts - approach departure and breakover angles.

 

I just shit in the rain. I dont see the problem lol also depending how long ive been out ill grab a bar of soap and get a shower in lol

 

The way I think of it is the OEM setup is the best calibration for what Toyota is trying to achieve, which is the one size fits all approach. It will be the best compromise between on and off road capability, fuel mileage, road noise, accleration, braking, load carrying and towing capability, etc.

So before you go modifying anything (which is fine...to each their own...do what you want...it's your truck) just remember that years of factory proven R&D went into setting the truck up to the exact specification it was delivered to you in.

 

True to an extent. Not everyones needs are the same as toyotas sell to the masses approach. There are many soccer moms and grocery getters accounted for in their approach. Probably way more represented than anything else. Thats not me. So each person will modify to their own needs

 

If anyone that’s gone to the larger tires need to sell their mud flaps, please contact me…I want a set.