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Brake enough to tow

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Mschuff, Jan 24, 2022.

  1. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:14 PM
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    Mschuff

    Mschuff [OP] New Member

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    I have turned my rotors and replaced the pads up front. I replaced the shoes and adjusted in the rear. I am still not getting the stopping power I would be comfortable with while towing. Break fluid level is consistent, no signs of leaks. I don’t run big tires. I bled the brakes. Any thoughts?
     
  2. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:19 PM
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    slowpokepete

    slowpokepete New No More

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    Does your trailer have brakes?

    If so, are you sure they are working?

    SPP
     
  3. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:36 PM
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    Mschuff

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    I won’t even drop a trailer on this truck until I get these truck brakes operating better. It’s not stopping strong enough to feel comfortable taking my kids in it.
     
  4. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:37 PM
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    mountainpete

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    Function before sparkle.
    To clarify, are you not getting the stopping power you expect while towing (trailer attached) or not enough that you would be comfortable to try towing?
     
  5. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:39 PM
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    mountainpete

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    @Mschuff - you replied as I replied. :)

    I had a similar problem on a Tacoma. I upgraded the brakes to Tundra brakes and I couldn't lock the wheels in an emergency stop. It was two things: rear brakes were not adjusted properly and there was air in the brake lines.
     
  6. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:40 PM
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    Mschuff

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    Not enough to be comfortable to tow.
     
  7. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:43 PM
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    FrenchToasty

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    Keep adjusting your rears
     
  8. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:55 PM
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    des2mtn

    des2mtn Down to seeds and stems again, too

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    Did you bleed the load sensing proportioning valve?
     
  9. Jan 24, 2022 at 1:58 PM
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    shifty`

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  10. Jan 24, 2022 at 2:33 PM
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    Half track

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    Flush the old brake fluid. Moisture in the braking system can cause lose in braking.

    You might have to replace the disc's up front, if you turned the rotors more then once.

    Also some members complain about using aftermarket brake parts.

    Look under Brake Replacement Options
     
  11. Jan 24, 2022 at 6:36 PM
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    Sirfive

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    Flush all the fluid. Adjust the rears until they rub, then back off a click or two. Maybe adjust the load sensing valve.

    ive got the powerstop z23 pads and cryo rotors, but in sept i had to two-foot emergency brake because of a deer, and felt the abs working, and last week i towed almost 6000lbs and felt comfortable with my brakes.
     
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  12. Jan 24, 2022 at 7:16 PM
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    NickB_01TRD

    NickB_01TRD You don't need less cars, just more driveway.

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  13. Jan 25, 2022 at 6:40 AM
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    Mschuff

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    It seems that bleeding the load sensing proportioning valve is my next step. And then adjusting it as well. Thanks y’all. I’ll report back
     
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  14. Jan 25, 2022 at 6:42 AM
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    des2mtn

    des2mtn Down to seeds and stems again, too

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    Best of luck! Here's the order you'll need to bleed it in per the factory service manual:

    Passenger rear
    LSPV
    Driver rear
    Passenger front
    Driver front
     

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