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E- rated tires for pulling toy hauler, pull better & worth extra weight?

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by IowaGuy, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. Oct 23, 2021 at 5:29 PM
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    Right now I have Nitto Terra Grappler G2's that came with the truck. They are OK and ride is smooth enough but I am wondering how they will work towing.

    I kinda want to put on Michelin LTX AT 2's as I am not off road much and these tires have a great reputation for longevity and performance. Would an E-rated tire tow better with the stiffer sidewall or be worth the extra weight and mileage reduction.

    I only pull a 17 ft toy hauler that we use as a camper with no toys and it weighs in @ 3500 loaded with our gear. Maybe and e-rated tire wouldnt be worth it and really do anything for me?
     
  2. Oct 23, 2021 at 5:38 PM
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    I think that towing that light of a rig there will be little difference at all and no challenge for the tires in any way.

    If you did switch I would go to the Falken Wild Peak and not in an E rated tire,oh wait that is exactly what I did too?!

    So I tow under 5K all the time and have no complaint at all with the standard size Falken and I did a 6K mile trip over the summer and towed for 2/3 of it about 5K and it was all fine.

    I have gone down that road myself though and all I got for it was a harsh and noisy ride in an E rated tire and no real advantage in any situation that I found myself in.
     
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  3. Oct 24, 2021 at 5:24 PM
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    I just put on Michellin Defender E Rated tires and towing a 32' TT at about 7500 lbs. I think they helped quite a bit. I do agree, however, that you may see little difference towing 3500 lbs.
     
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    I tow a 4000lb camper with OE tires. At max pressure in the rear they feel fine. I had E rated tires previously and they felt the same.

    finishing my thought- mpg is the same E rated vs P rated given the same size. The only difference is unloaded ride quality, P rated is slightly better.

    if you drive a lot of curvy roads, e rated handles a ton better.

    if you offroad in sharp rocks, e rated will resist cuts better.

    i am very torn as to what set i will buy next time. I don’t offroad, so the P rated tires have been more than adequate. I run them higher than door jamb pressure with good results and as I said, bump them up for towing trips and they do just fine
     
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  5. Dec 13, 2021 at 8:25 PM
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    I have had E rated Terra grapplers on my 07 crew max and 08 sequoia. Had E rated Ridge grapplers on my 15 Tundra. The 15 I towed near or over max load for thousands of miles. My new 21 CM has Bridgestone Duelers on it. They make for a sloppy handling truck and towing with proper inflation helps and is ok for a 5000lb or less. they are dangerous for max load towing and will be replaced with new E rated tires once I order some new wheels for them.
     
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    I have been towing a 5k lb trailer with Nitto RG 35 x 12.5 x 20 F-rated 10 ply and a 6" lift without a problem.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2021 at 10:56 PM
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    A true overkill for what you are towing. I would be looking at the XL P Metric tire if tire load is a concern.

    E rated tires are for this:

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    Not this:

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    I run the Michelin LTX AT2 tires and they perform well. No flat spotting and all weather performance has been my main concern.
     
  8. Dec 20, 2021 at 11:45 PM
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    With 2 dirt bikes, 20 gal of fuel for the bikes, firewood and everything else that goes with camping in the bed, then the trailer. Why not a heavy rated tire?
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  9. Dec 21, 2021 at 12:22 AM
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    Are you overloaded then? What kind of trailer?

    Two dirt bikes= <500 lbs, but just under (assuming you have thumpers in a 450)
    Gas= 124 lbs
    Wood= let’s get real here. 100 lbs of wood goes a long way and probably couldn’t fit it in with the gas and bikes.

    So we are at ~700 lbs. Now add two guys at 180. 1060. Hope your trailer tongue weight is under 340 lbs. (doubtful)


    So let’s get back to the tires.

    OE tire. Load index 114. That’s 2601 lbs each. Quick math 2601x4= 10404 lbs. this exceeds any tow rating of a Tundra.

    41 lbs each is pretty decent.

    https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-ltx-a-t-2/p/17938

    Now let’s get over to a LR E.

    Now you are adding 7 lbs per wheel in a load index 121 tire..which you can now add to your already overloaded weight. Each one of those tires are rated at 3197 each. These are for older 3/4 ton trucks. When I had my tundra, I couldn’t find any P metric at the time and put LR E BFG KOs on in a load index 124 (exactly what I have on my one ton). I noticed a drop in fuel economy, longer braking, and slower accelerating. These tires were around 53 lbs each. So 12 lbs heavier per tire.

    You can see where I’m going with this right? You are either overloaded or not. Sounds like you are overloaded. Could be wrong though but would need specs of truck, trailer, and cargo.
     
  10. Dec 21, 2021 at 1:23 AM
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    Well that's all said and good. If it won't do what I need within the realm of basic truck stuff I say to bad. Been hauling that for 2yrs without a problem. Average riding trip is 300mi round trip at 10mpg 10 times a year.
     
  11. Dec 21, 2021 at 1:26 AM
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    No thumpers, 00 & 01 CR250's and 2 Labradors.
     

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