Time to refresh/upgrade suspension... thoughts appreciated

I've been reading through stickies and other threads for a while, but the array of options is really extensive so hopefully I can get some focused thoughts from the more experienced here.

Truck: 2011, 5.7 4x4 DC 125k miles, assume the entire suspension is original/stock.

In my opinion it already has boat-like ride qualities unloaded, and when I've got a scoop of dirt, or a few hundred pounds of pavers in the back, it really seems to squat and has a bouncy ride.

Goals:

1) Level, or really close.
2) Firm everything up considerably and especially stiffen up the rear for less squat with a heavier load in the bed. I don't currently do any towing, but would like to future proof it against that to the extent possible.

So, here are my thoughts; let me know what you think:

Front: I think all the threads here have me convinced that Bilstein 6112s are the way to go, probably at the 1.9 setting... or maybe the next one up depending. I don't see much discussion about front spring stiffness... what are everyone's thoughts there?

Rear: Bilstein 5100 seems to be a popular choice? It seems like the rear height is controlled more by the spring than the shock though? Do I need new springs as well and if so what are favorite options here? One caveat, I don't want to go to the extent of airbags and compressor, etc. I'll never be towing that heavy often enough to justify it. So I'm looking for a good strong setup that will keep the rear at stock height or maybe +.5" or so, will handle a bed load well, and can do some infrequent towing if needed.

Also I'm not doing wheels and tires yet, but, tires at a minimum won't be too far behind. I like the look of slightly offset wheels also but unsure if I would do that, but, it is a possibility at a later date if that matters.

Thanks for any input.

 

I've got 6112's in the front at 1.9" and the factory Trd off-road in the rear. I couldn't really tell much of a difference in ride quality when i swapped, but i'm happy with the oem quality and the beefier shock over the stock. I know the 5160's are "the match" for the 6112's but i think your right that the 5100's might be a little stiffer than the 5160's.

I bought my 5160's at boss-offroad assembled. If you are diy'ing id recommend buying them pre-assembled so you dont have to mess with a spring compressor.
You could check with them on when they will be available. I believe there's a Tundras discount code, just ask them.
https://boss-offroad.com/i-30497956...-shocks-07-tundra-assembled-out-of-stock.html

 

Thanks.. dumb question, but I assume you mean 6112's preassembled?

I've looked at it briefly but will probably have a shop install everything.
I hadn't really looked at 5100 vs. 5160, but just googled that and it appears the 5160 is a reservoir/dedicated offroad shock. I would like to maintain articulation and decent offroad ability, though realistically, that isn't my main use case. Will the 5160 also provide benefits with hauling and towing?

 

I had 6112s and 5160s. People usually run those together as they’re a good match. With the reservoir, the 5160s have more oil and would stay cooler when hauling and towing, but probably not noticeably.

 

Thanks.... how about new rear springs? Is it likely I would want those, and how much of the overall rear performance is about the shock vs. spring?

 

Tundra stock leafs are known to sag and be bouncy. Most upgrade to Deaver, alcan, or even icon rxt. The icons are on my list but if you do the setting for added weight then it adds lift too. I put on airbags with an onboard compressor so I can adjust the psi depending on how much I am hauling.

My unprofessional opinion is the leafs and shocks are equally important. A good match with give good performance.

 

Get the adjustable Falcon system and Coachbuilder +1 shackles.
This is an excellent combo. The rear adjustability really makes a difference when hauling and towing.
I have had Bilstein and Fox prior to the Falcons and I can say without a doubt the Falcons are a much higher quality shock and they provide a much better ride in comfort and performance.
The Bilstein and Foxes are not bad per say they are just no where near as good as the Falcons.



https://www.tundras.com/threads/falcon-shocks-are-coming.34355/

https://www.tundras.com/threads/now...port-tow-haul-2-25-leveling-kit-tundra.86448/

 

After reading the whole Falcon thread, I think you've got me convinced. Now to find some near-new take off springs, front and rear, hopefully.

 

Get your truck a new set of Dobinson's leaf springs. I bought the HD packs and couldn't be happier. Very good stuff. More thin leaves provide a better ride than a few thick leaves. Don't forget a ubolt set too. You can call Anthony at Boss 4*4 really good guy who will be helpful and courteous with shipping updates and such. If you are getting lift from your springs don't forget to add a rear brake line relocate kit, cheap and simple install will keep you safe when the rear goes full droop. Good luck!

 

Falcons on order through a local 4x4 shop.
25 week lead time... ouch.

 

I ordered in November and they arrived in March. Well worth the wait. Make sure you get yourself a set of Coachbuilder +1s as well.