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Why is nobody running hydro bumps on the rear

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Cummins3500, Jul 4, 2021.

  1. Jul 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM
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    Cummins3500

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    Just curious as to why nobody is running hydro bumps on the rear of these 1st gens ? I can find a lot of 2nd gens and 3rd gens running them

    is it cost? Lack of travel in the rear? Clearance issues? Or are the overkill?

    I mean in the scheme of things they seem like they would be worth the investment to protect an expensive suspension?
     
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    Yes multiple times.

    The only people who would benefit enough to fab mounts and run these are long travel people. They usually have something cool worked out for compression protection. For everybody else a cheap and easy solution like wheelers bump stops or similar is enough.

    I like where you're headed though.
     
  3. Jul 4, 2021 at 6:12 PM
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    Definitely an up travel thing. When you go spring under you have a lot more up travel to play with
     
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    Thats my plan. But i want high lift deavers under the axles. And i havent decided how much sway bar i want yet. But, hydraulic bumpstops might keep me from needing sway.
     
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    Gotta come clean, im not opposed to a truck arm and cantilevered coilovers, cause i dont want to cut the bed. But, im not there yet.
     
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    If you're relying on bump stops for your sway control then you have effectively no up travel at ride height. I wouldn't recommend that unless it's strictly a crawler and you hate going over 5mph.
     
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    No, it can lean, but the stops would keep it from binding. And…i dunno im not there yet, sas would be worth the death wobble…

    https://youtu.be/LDGWZ1TiAhc
    About 1:05ish: i wouldnt hate carrying tire on on-ramps. And 1:38ish.
     
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    Agree. DW can be mitigated with a good steering system and beefy steering stabilizer(s).
     
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    That mcm fab cantilever setup is pretty damn sexy. And cost wise it would’ve been similar to the full archive garage setup. I just figured I’d never push the truck hard enough to take full advantage of it without long traveling the front end

    curiosity got the best of me about running these air bumps. I wonder if I could squeeze a short set in there. :monocle: I mean the rear end is getting a re-work with the shock relocation kit and hammer hangers. Plus I’m hoping ads can hook me up with a set of shocks that match the compressed and extended lengths archive recommends while maintaining that 12 inches of travel


    https://www.crawlpedia.com/bump_stops.htm
    here’s the link That got me back to looking at these
     
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    Hydros are awesome and can't be remotely compared to "normal" bump stops, so if you can fit them and justify the expense you should. The only "downside" I've noticed for street use is they can be loud and clanky if you compress the suspension enough to kiss them but not enough to actually make the bump stop move. Of course, that can be remedied by adjusting the pressure in them (so you'll want a nitrogen setup, but that costs about $120 if you don't have one). If you're running 12" of travel I would get 2" stroke ones (though you can destroke any bump easily by installing a spacer, even 2" might be too long depending on how much up travel you have). The tunability is what makes hydros especially nice, and then you get the perk of true bottom out resistance versus just slamming a rubber puck slightly less hard than the frame.
     
  11. Jul 9, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    So if space is an issue is their a benefit to running Spc’s with the 1.75 in stroke versus say ads’s option with a spacer to reduce stroke?

    Spc jounce shocks:
    https://www.spcalignment.com/component/content/article?id=371

    https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/light-racing-jounce-stops-whats-the-word.70066/
    *dude in this thread mentions they’re designed to pass GM’s oem test requirements for bumpstops :monocle:


    ADS:
    https://adsshocks.com/product/air-bump-stops-2-125-inch-bump-can-style-ads-racing-shocks/
     
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    Never heard of them, but they have support in that rdc thread and they appear to be the same as a normal hydro more or less. If they fit your bill I'd have no issue running them, I'd just compare sizes to other bumps on the market.

    And in regard to the ads bumps, I have 4 of them on a build right now (reused from a previous truck I had) and they're pretty standard for bumps, but they are 2.125" which is annoying. You can't just swap out any old bump stop into them, and you can't just stuck a piece of 2" tube inside the can when welding it. I don't know why ads has to be so weird and offer a slightly larger shock for their smallest size, but something to keep in mind. Honestly, if you're not trying to match brands for your shocks I wouldn't run their bumps purely from those reasons alone. All bumps cost essentially the same and all perform the same, not having any interchangeability with other brands and being a weird size for fabrication is dumb.
     
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    I like to run naked without bump stops.

    Not by choice, just the fact my old ones dried up and fell off.
     
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    @snivilous Thanks for the info man, and I’m sure they’ll be more questions come up. I’m trying to not to make a rushed decision and compare all the options. Plus I like seeing real world reviews on em before purchase

    Ads is off the list because I don’t wanna full commit to that odd ball size.



    but the same argument could be made for the SPCS. But I’m gonna keep them on the list for the compact option and the low maintenance side of them.


    @Jack McCarthy we’re just gonna call you “the streak” lol
     
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