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SPC vs. Total Chaos UCA

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Dustydirt19, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Nov 12, 2016 at 11:37 AM
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    was curious on pros and cons between these 2 UCAs. SPC seems like they are more adjustable but the TC seems more heavy duty. thoughts?
     
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  2. Nov 12, 2016 at 2:15 PM
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    Spc is a ball joint.
    TC is a uniball.

    SPC requires less maintenence.

    TC has a greater range of motion.

    SPC uses grease.
    TC uses dry lube.

    SPC has a lot of adjustablility for caster and camber. Could lead to more expensive alignment if the shop doesn't understand the adjustments.
     
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  3. Nov 12, 2016 at 2:33 PM
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    Which would you suggest? the price difference doesn't bother me.
     
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  4. Nov 12, 2016 at 3:46 PM
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    That depends if you want maintenance or maintenance free. I have SPC and they're solid. Hell, our resident Toyota mechanic, @LOTSOFTOYS even recommends them
     
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  5. Nov 12, 2016 at 3:51 PM
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    Which one is maintenance free? SPC?
     
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    Ya. SPC
     
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    TC if you wheel your truck
     
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    I got the TC. Had SPC on my Tacoma. Decided to go for more travel.
     
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    Ok thanks
     
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    Thanks guys. does it matter for wheel size? like can you get bigger wheels and less cutting with one or the other?
     
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  11. Nov 12, 2016 at 4:19 PM
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    Yes. On my 2012 it rubbed at certain angles with stock uca
     
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  12. Nov 12, 2016 at 4:27 PM
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    But between the 2 can you get bigger tires with one or the other?
     
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    I want 35s or as close as I can get with the least amount of trimming
     
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  14. Nov 12, 2016 at 6:49 PM
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    I have SPC and have 35"
    A lot will depend on your offset
     
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    Spc are very user friendly. simple, no maintenance and adjustable. TC or anyother uniballs uca are much stronger, requires maintenance and are not adjustable... depends on what u r gonna do with the truck really
     
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    I have the SPC's on three toyota's (4runner, tacoma, and tundra). They've performed well. 80,000 miles on one set with no issues.
     
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    Hmm....piqued my interest now
     
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    As always guys thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. im just trying to get all the info in everything so I can save up and have everything put on at once. don't want any unwanted surprises
     
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    I don't really want anyone hacking on my truck and I want to have to option to off road so tell me your thoughts on this...

    Toytec Boss 3" full lift
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    18x9 wheel either +18 or +12 offset ( want them flush with bushwacker fender flares or sticking out just a tad )

    That sound pretty solid? shouldn't have to cab mount chop or trim bumpers or anything?

    the only other change I would make is maybe 305 70 18 tires but I believe you guys told me I'd have to do a cab mount chop and bumper trim with that right? I can deal with losing a little height and width if I can get away without having to chop and trim
     
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    Go with 18. I have 18 and my tires are only few mm from the body mounts. 12 would've rubbed. Other components look solid.
     
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    All look like good choices. I would also go with +18.
    305/70R18 is 35" diam and 12.5 width. You will. We'd to trim front plastic and cab mount chop most likely.

    295/70R18 is a 34.25" diam and 12" width. You probably will need to trim the plastic in the wheel well.
     
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    Go with the larger tire size....let your balls drop and just get the cmc done :)

     
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    Does yours rub at full lock with suspension compressed?
     
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    Do you guys have pics of what you had to trim or a dyi on it? the cab mount I'm familiar with. plastic and bumper trimming or heating the fender wells with a heat gun I'm not
     
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    I'd go with +18 if you want to minimize trimming. Check my build thread if you want to check out what I trimmed to fit +12 on my 3" lift.
     
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    Mine did rub at full lock and I pushed in the plastic liner and rescrewed bottom screws (I understand this procedure is somewhat more difficult with 2014+). I have no more rub. I have 3.5 OME lift and 295/70/18 Nitto Trail Grappler. I am not sure about full compression since I don't really go off road in any serious way.
     
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    Thanks. huge help!!
     
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    Ok thanks I appreciate it. im not doing anything serious either just your typical Northwoods redneck mud running
     
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    Hmm I am looking at the same thing...now to find a sale on SPC UCAs.....anyone anyone?
     
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    here is my front liner after last weekend: 33x12x18 with +18 offset and pro comp spacers in front.

     
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GEARWRENCH Ball Joint Separator | 3916D
$29.73
MOOG K750180 Suspension Stabilizer Bar Link for Toyota Tundra
$38.78
Energy Suspension - 8.9104G REAR BUMP STOPS
$37.99
52420 2" Air Bag Lift Universal Air Spring Spacers Kit for Most Lift Kits
$37.50
Siberian Bushing Polyurethane Front Suspension Lower Arm Front Compatible with Toyota Tundra 2006-On Sequoia 2007-On Land Cruiser 2007-On
$43.95
ABN Coil Spring Compression Tools - 2pc Durable Coil Spring Clamps Strut Spring Compressor Tool Set with Safety Guard
$37.99
OEMTOOLS 25550 MacPherson 10.75" Strut Spring Compressor, Automotive Suspension System Maintenance Tool, 2-Piece Universal Spring Compressor Tools with 9.75" Maximum Safe Opening, Forged Hooks
$36.99
Maxima 74908 Chain Wax - 5.5 oz. Aerosol
$15.83
Boeshield T-9 Aerosol Can (4 -Ounce) (122184) , White
$15.41
Cup Holder Divider and Hide for 2022+ Toyota Tundra, Anti-Tipping Insert (Matt Black)
$15.99
VHT SP154 550° Engine Enamel High Heat Spray Paint – Grabber Green– 11 oz. Aerosol Can
$15.80
Control Devices P2525-1WA Brass Ball Check Valve, 1/4" NPT Female x NPT Male
$16.05
MOOG K201414 Suspension Stabilizer Bar Bushing Kit for Toyota Tundra
$18.46
MOOG K500018 Front Upper Suspension Ball Joint for Toyota 4Runner
$19.86
DuPont Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol, 14 oz( bottle color may vary)
$12.97
CRC 3084 Dry Moly Lube, (Net Weight: 11 oz.) Dark Gray, Original Version
$16.64
Leaf Spring Liner with Lip, 2-1/4", Black
$17.16
Protune Suspension Rear Shock Extender W/Brake Line Relocation 2-4" Lift Kit fits for Toyota Tundra 07-19
$24.99
AZUNO Digital Tire Inflator with Pressure Gauge, 200 PSI (0.1 Res) w/LED Flashlight, Heavy Duty Air Compressor Accessories 7pcs Set, w/Lock on Air Dual Head Chuck and 90° Tire Valve
$25.99
OTC 4722 Stinger Heavy-Duty CV Boot Clamp Installer
$28.72
NEIKO 01407A Electronic Digital Caliper Measuring Tool, 0 - 6"es Stainless Steel Construction with Large LCD Screen Quick Change Button for Inch Fraction Millimeter Conversions, Digital Caliper Measuring Tool
$27.99
ABN 11.5in Strut Spring Compressor Tool – Set of 2 (Pair) – Macpherson Spring Compression, 13/16in Socket 1/2in Drive
$25.99
MOOG K90255 Front Upper Suspension Ball Joint for Toyota Tundra
$31.78
WINMAX TOOLS AUTOMOTIVE Heavy Duty 280mm Hook Coil Spring Compressor/Jaws Capacity:23~280m High Security
$29.90
Air Lift 21838 Union Tee, Silver
$7.00
Malida Pipe Tube Hose Cutter Scissors tool,Cuts 1/4" 3/8" 1/2" PVC Nylon PU for Water filters Reverse Osmosis System.
$6.78
Genuine Super Oilite (SAE 863) Sintered Iron/Copper Thrust (Washers) Bearings 1.0000 in. ID x 1.494 in. OD x 1/8 in. Thick
$3.85
Gabriel 142467 Hardware Kit (1 Pack)
$7.16
uxcell 2pcs M16 x 1.5mm Pitch Metric Fine Thread 304 Stainless Steel Hex Lock Nuts
$9.39
Beck/Arnley 101-7653 Ball Joint
$37.78
Lhfacc in Cab Single Air Gauge Control Kit with Paddle Switch for Air Suspension Kit
$36.99
GEARWRENCH GearBox 12 Pt. XL Double Box Ratcheting Wrench, 22mm - 85922
$37.11
Warrior Products 800061 2.5" 4 Degree Leaf Spring Shim - Pair
$51.27
Dynofit 2" Leveling Lift Kit for Tundra & Sequoia, 2" Front Raise Suspension Strut Spacers for 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 Tundra
$44.99
Mevotech TTX Suspension Stabilizer Link Kit TXMS86822
$49.87
Gabriel 143340 Suspension Mount Regular
$21.66
KYB SM5737 - Mount Kit
$21.76
XL/Car Window Shades for SUVs (10 Sizes) - Breathable Stretchy Mesh Screens for Baby, Sun, Heat, Bug & Privacy Protection, Ideal for Camping Adventures, 2-Pack by Qualizzi
$21.87
3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film (6" x 60")
$21.89
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