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Komodo - My Wife's Daily Driver and High Speed Overland Rig

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Builds (2014-2021)' started by KevinK, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Jul 5, 2019 at 7:44 PM
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    Sweet baby Jesus I still haven’t update this any further.

    If you’re playing along at home, we’ve done a fuckoad more than is documented so far in this thread.

    Here’s some pictures of the Icon Omega rear bypasses, originally installed in March 2017.

    At the time we were on stock leafs with a 1” block for just a little lift. Basically the same rear suspension from when we first bought it and did the first suspension setup. (Today we’re still on those stock leafs with 1” block and have only added a 3/4” shackle and Icon bumps)

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    Some artsy fartsy shots from my old flexing spot where I could test clearance and shit.

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    The day they were installed vs six months later. We packed in a lot of off road miles in those six months. Look at how fucked the lower mount is from gravel hits. This is why you run rubber boots on the shafts.

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  2. Jul 17, 2019 at 4:31 AM
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    Hey Kevin, where did you get boots for the Icon's? I did a search and did not find anything for Icon so I assume what you bought were universal boots
     
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    Holy Moly!! I wouldn’t even know where to begin?! That there is a heck of a rig and you have some time and money in it!! Good On You!!!!:)
     
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  4. Jul 20, 2019 at 10:11 AM
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    Hey Tony, we got them at @sdhq_offroad amf I think they’re daystar brand. Just get any boot made for a 2.5” shock. :thumbsup:

    Thanks man! I still have to finish documenting all this shit. LoL.
     
  5. Jul 22, 2019 at 4:08 PM
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    I am looking at upgrading my suspension soon and I am debating whether the bypasses are worth the extra money in the rear over 2.5 cdc's if run with the stock leaf springs. I will be keeping the stock leaf springs for a while as the load I carry varies a lot from empty to full of multiple dirt bikes and camping gear and possibly add a small shackle lift if needed. Usually just ripping down very potholed and washboarded logging roads, not jumping or hitting big whoops. Also plan on pairing them with the Icon 3.0 coilovers. Any advice would be much appreciated.
     
  6. Jul 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM
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    Yeah the bypasses help a lot when you vary your payload often (as long as you have adjustment knobs on the tubes instead of adjustment nuts that require wrenches). Most of the time we’re relativley loaded, so our bypasses are closed up a bit. When we unload, we open the bypasses and the ride is smooth even at light weight. The omegas work great with the stock springs.
     
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    Awesome man! I'm in the planning stages of my purchase & build. This definitely is a great series to follow. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  8. Jul 24, 2019 at 6:19 PM
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    Awesome, thanks for the reply. I am probably going to place my order with SDHQ tomorrow for Icon 3.0's and bypass rears with TC 3/4" shackles. Are you still on stock springs? Any idea what you would upgrade to? I am also trying to decide if I should get the RXT bypass shocks so that I can have the potential for more travel when I upgrade the leaf springs. I think my needs for leaf springs are similar (minimal weight most of the time but then load up with dirt bikes/camping gear) and want a spring that rides good when the truck is empty but doesn't sag a bunch when loaded.
     
  9. Jul 26, 2019 at 4:04 PM
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    How do you like the icon set up. I'm on the fence between theirs and toytec. The expedition overland guys run them and it looks great. Interested to hear your take
     
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  10. Jul 27, 2019 at 3:46 AM
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    The last half of your last sentence is the holy grail of truck suspension.

    _and want a spring that rides good when the truck is empty but doesn't sag a bunch when loaded_

    Physics kind of precludes this from being possible with a single spring pack. Any pack compliant enough for a smooth ride when empty, isn’t strong enough to carry a load. And any pack strong enough to carry weight, is so stiff that an empty ride becomes uncomfortable. A good compromise is as close as we can get

    How much weight difference do you think you have from empty (or daily driving) to loaded for camping or riding?

    I would probably go the below route if I were trying to accomplish your goals and had to spread the cost out. Get these things in this order. Joey at SDHQ will know what I’m talking about.

    1. RXT Bypasses and TC 3/4 shackle
    2. RXT leafs
    3. Airbags with detached cradles


    We love the Icon setup for what we do now. We ran the Toytec for a year and they were great until we just outgrew what they’re meant for.

    What kind of wheeling do you do?

    It’s probably not fair for us to compare our Toytec setup to our Icon setup. They’re in pretty different categories and just meant for different things.

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  11. Jul 27, 2019 at 8:48 AM
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    I'm stock at the moment so I mainly do moderate Jeep trails and ocerlanding/camping. 3 inch on the way for more fun, sadly can't afford the icon set up at the moment but it's on the list
     
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    Okay, I get that the spring I’m looking for doesn’t exist... (let me know if you find the holy grail;)) I’m just trying to find the best compromise I guess. I just ordered the RXT bypasses and TC shackles from SDHQ so step 1 complete, hopefully this will serve me well for a while. I’d say the weight in the bed varies from literally empty during the week to 600-700 lbs on weekends and extreme cases probably 800+ if I have 3 dirt bikes but that is rare. I had RXT leaf springs (option 2) on my Tacoma and they rode great empty to moderately loaded but when loaded with bikes/camp gear they were constantly on the bump stops and the ride was unbearable on rough roads. (To be fair I had fox suspension with superbumps and not full RXT) The other spring that looked interesting to me is the Deaver U748 that MCM sells, capable of more droop than stock but still has overload leaves for when loaded.
     
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    @kylerocker10 This. While the Deavers have their leafpacks to be progressive, they still optimally carry payloads of 500-600 before it starts to sag. I am not too sure if that is for the pair, or per leaf pack, but that is still not enough for the payload you wish to carry. I am somewhat in the same boat, and agree with @KevinK that his advice seem to fit well with most applications.
     
  14. Jul 29, 2019 at 6:25 AM
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    The BOSS work great on Jeep trails. If you keep your lift at about 2-2.5”, you won’t need a front diff spacer and you can keep the extra inch of clearance between the front wheels.

    One thing you could consider for number 3) is instead of airbags, maybe put on Icon bumps. We run them and they come in really handy for two things:
    Loaded heavy and doing ‘normal’ wheeling
    Loaded normal (5-600lbs for us) and hitting big stuff
     
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    Are you still running the Falken Wildpeaks? How are they offroad, climbing, rocky stuff, you know crazy BASTRDS stuff?
    I'm trying to decide what's next. I was looking for M/T, but the Wildpeak AT price is hard to ignore.
     
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    They aren't available for the size I want. I'm looking for 37x12.5x18 which is a fairly rare size and the only reason that I'm considering the Falkens. If I decide to go 13.5 there are a lot more options and I'll go with a hybrid or M/T.
     
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    We loved the Falken AT and if they offered them in a 37 on 17, we’d run them again. Perfect for all that BASTRD and SGU stuff. Plus excellent street manners and low noise. Actually my all time favorite tire.
     
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    Some random pictures from Mt. Ord since Facebook is a piece of shit and can’t access my photos on the phone... hosting them here like it’s 1998.

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    That top one might have kicked my ass. There’s one a bit like that, but with heavy brush close in on both sides that prevent much line choice, that’s kicked my ass twice in the Hulk. One rear tire drops to full droop, while the other gets stuffed up under the fender. I want to go back when I’ve got someone with me so I can try to push through (and have a buddy help rescue, or at least laugh and drink beer so I won’t be alone in the back country while I struggle). :eek2:
    Need to build something like this into that crevice in the side of Calcite Mine trail.
     
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    Let's go! I go yer 6 and I am up for the entertainment... I mean challenge of watching you.:mudding::cheers:
     
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    Haha, great! Where are you? (I’m in SoCal and the weird bit of dirt I need to conquer is above Pine Valley off the Sunrise Hwy in the Laguna Mountains.)
     
  24. Aug 21, 2019 at 6:07 AM
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    Old caved-in entrance to the Ord Mine. When you drive over it the outside few inches of the tire go over the gap.

    We have a spot we need to go back and conquer too! In Colorado, the road from Crested Butte to Pearl Pass. It was late July when Lisa and I went and the water was flowing really fast. It looked like it was only a foot or two deep, but as soon as we put our front tires in, the rocks underneath gave way and we slipped and settled a little deeper. That’s when we noped our way back the way we had come.
    With another truck we could recover easier, but no way we were doing that water crossing alone.
    Turns out Pearl Pass was still closed so we would have been turned around a few miles and several thousand feet of elevation later.

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    Whew! Lucky. I don’t like adulting much, but living through stuff to try again another day is cool....
     
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    Originally installed February 6, 2017

    Front Bumper Light Bar - TOMAR 35" TRX

    Lights Before Lockers, bitches - inspiration comes in many forms

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    We already had the 50 inch combo light bar on the roof that does amber and/or white in a composite pattern, but wanted something that shone farther up the road while at higher speeds in the dark. Enter the TRX 35" Spot bar. This thing is good for about a quarter lux at a half mile - a quarter lux is roughly the light of the full moon, from half a mile away. AKA - fuckin bright.

    A word on lightbar comparisons
    • They're retarded

    That's pretty much it. Trying to choose a lightbar on paper, and based on each manufacturer's marketing is tough. Each manufacturer is going say their shit is the best. "Ours has the most lumens!" "Ours has the most watts!" "Ours has the most output!" "Brighter than the competition!" "90% better optics!" "Your mom loves us!"
    All of those things can be 100% true and still be useless information when comparing one bar to another - basically the same as political polls. It's all in how you present the "facts".

    The truest measure of any light is the measured lux (actual brightness observed with a light meter) at a particular distance - but anyway, none of that matters if your lights don't work, so I like TOMAR lights. They started in emergency lighting and make explosion proof lights. Literally, lights for oil rigs that still have to work if that shit blows up, so these off road lights are pretty fuckin sturdy. For one thing, they don't drive their LEDs at 100%, they run at 80%, so they never dim. Take your typical lightbar and leave it on for an hour and see how bright it is... damn, this is sounding like an advertisement for TOMAR. Oh well, they make good lights.

    Anyway, I really like their stuff because it just works 100% of the time, and it changes colors without lens changes and you can dim it and it does SOS or warning patterns, and all of that shit is built into the bar. You don't need some other controller or external relays or anything else to make it all work. I bought five dollars worth of Autozone switches to control it all.

    Run positive and negative wires to the battery, and then run this control cable to wherever you want your switches. The control cable has a handful of wires that carry low voltage signal and one ground. Touch one or a combination of those wires to the ground wire and the light turns on in one color or another or does a pattern or dims or whatever.

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    A Method to the Madness

    We got a 35" with all white spots in it for the bumper. There was a method to our madness from the beginning of the lighting plan. If you've driven with low-mounted lights, you know that every little bump in the trail looks like a giant ditch because of the angle the light casting big shadows along the trail. There's no depth or contrast definition with a single, super bright white light - everything is either white or black, so it's hard to decide if that black spot in the road is a 4" dip or a 3' drop.

    If you've driven 'under the light' by having a roof mounted lightbar, you know the lack of shadows from your perspective can have kind of the opposite effect. Everything looks relatively flat, because everything is awash in light - same problem of low contrast definition and difficulty distinguishing between 4" and 3' variances on the tral. The solution is to have lighting from more than one location and of different colors to create some contrast and definition through shadow and light intensity variance.

    We went with the combination amber/white lightbar on the roof knowing that we would put white spots down low. If we had put the amber down low and white up on top, the white from above would washout the amber light and we'd be back at square one 'under the light'. With the white low and amber high, the white spots create large shadow out of small things, but then the amber fills it in from above so you can see that the huge shadow isn't really that big (or it is).



    The important parts are the little slivers of yellow under the white, inside the hole and behind the bump. These little slivers will give you the depth perception to know if it's a big or small bump or hole. Notice that if the colors were reversed, everything would just be white.

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    If we had it to do over again, we probably would have opted for a white spot/amber flood split bar for inside the bumper. That would allow us to run ambers down low when we're following in the dust at night, and reduce the glare even more than having the ambers on the roof. Amber on the roof in the dust is way better than white on the roof, but amber down low wold be even better. The compromise would be that half of the lightbar would be white spots and half would be amber floods, so our throw distance on the white spots would be cut in half. Pretty much everything on every build is a compromise of some sort - you just have to decide what your use case calls for the most.

    To make a short story long, we installed it

    Our first install used the ZRoads brackets from TOMAR which make the install a simple bolt-in affair. Pop the grille off, undo a few bolts, put the brackets in place and put the bolts back in. Route the wires, replace the grille and it's all done. Super simple.

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    But, these brackets locate the bar out in front of the bumper which meant we wouldn't be able to park in the garage anymore. We only have about a half inch behind the truck to the kitchen wall, and a half inch in front of the truck to the closed garage door.


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    And, these brackets are floppy as fuck. The bolts that hold it in are in a straight line, so there is only one dimension of connectivity between the bracket and bumper. I'm sure that would be fine for basic street driving and some mild off roading, but we don't exactly take it easy off road. I actually vibrated it loose twice before relocating it to the inside of the bumper a bit more solidly.

    At around the 1 minute mark in this video we made for Tundras to Sedona, you can see how it flops around on the front bumper. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great. Also the truck splashing around in the water at night and turning lights on at the very end is also Lisa's truck.

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    Anyway, this is all long and shit, but I'm just trying to chronicle the build and keep it in order. Later on I'll write up how I installed it inside the bumper. Before doing that, I destroyed the front inner fender liners while tuning the rear bypasses and that lead to a fucking slew of changes... many of which got done before I relocated the light bar.

    Parking lot meetup where we first met Rob String who owns Arizona Collision Center. He awarded us Most Purposeful Truck or something along those lines because he liked how everything had a reason to be there. Rob eventually became a great friend and his shop did the paint job you see on Komodo today.

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    Here's a decent video of what it looks like out the windshield on the trail with both bars on.

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    Holy shit.

    Almost two years to the day since I (or anyone else) posted in here.

    Maybe I’ll catch up on the build write ups, but for now here’s a couple pictures.


    Lights and a heated blanket and phone chargers all wired into the tent.
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    More bumper trimming for the MTs and the proper alignment after installing solid cam plates to lock the LCA into position. Yes, this was on a camping trip. Yes, my friends carry these kinda tools around. They’re pretty cool. That would be @papasmurf cutting the line I drew because he’s much better at it.

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    Tore up the pretty paint job quite effectively on some fun trails while we lived in Ohio.

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    More batteries. Yep, these are also held in with Velcro.

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    new stereo, phone mounts and ham mic mount.

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    Pretty sure I’m forgetting some stuff
     
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    papasmurf

    papasmurf Savage Fabrication

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    07 Silver Sky 4x4 | Total Chaos LT | 2.5 King Coil overs & Bypasses | Camburg Bed Cage | 3.0 King Bypasses | 2.0 King Bumps | Custom Deavers | Nitro 4.88's | ARB Locker | Demello Sliders | 17" Double Standards | BFGKO2 37's |
    Hahaha I carry that and so much more!

    and damn that is a big screen... I'm peanut butter and jealous
     
  29. Sep 5, 2021 at 12:40 PM
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    What radio unit is that?
     
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  30. Sep 13, 2021 at 12:46 AM
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    KevinK

    KevinK [OP] SGU - High Speed Overlander

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    It’s a Kenwood DMX1057XR. We looked at the smaller one but it looked goofy in the stock head unit location without the buttons on the side in the plastic of the dash. And it didn’t do wireless CarPlay which turns out is pretty awesome.
    The CarPlay integration with Gaia is bad ass. Big map right there on the dash without needing the iPad.
     
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