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Toytech Eibach vs. Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by tja1080, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. Feb 28, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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    What is the major difference between the 2? What am I missing? Eibachs are about $250 cheaper than Bilstein 6112s...

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I’m just trying to see why everyone (it seems) chooses the 6112s.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Feb 28, 2019 at 12:17 PM
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    Bilstein 6112s are a 2.6” valve body shock and the eibachs are only 2”. The 6112s are better suited for more off road abuse. The 6112 does use an eibach spring, but not sure if they are the same. If you’re just looking for a good quality leveling coilover then the toytec is a great product. But if your intent is to get the level and put the setup through more abuse then the 6112 is worth the upgrade. I have the 6112s and they are worth every penny in my opinion. They made my truck a whole lot more fun to drive and I’m not worried about every bump taking out my spine lol.
     
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    I'm torn between these two and also the BOSS setup. I don't see myself doing any hardcore offloading, maybe light to moderate trails, but most of my time will be spent as a DD.

    I'm also looking for overall ride quality. I just picked my tundra up over the weekend and am surprise how stiff and bumpy the ride is. I know it's a truck but good lord - I feel like I can feel every pebble in the road haha
     
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  5. Mar 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM
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    There are a dozen threads on here about the Toytec/Eibach coilovers by now. I've had them for over a year. My truck see's everything from DD, towing a camper, and mild offroading. It's all a matter of what you're going to use your truck for. Mild offroading, fire roads, slower stuff...I wouldn't spend a penny over the Toytec/Eibach price.

    You can spend 3x, 5x, or even 10x more on coilovers. It's all a matter of how you intend to use your truck or if you just like the "status" of having top tier coilovers.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2019 at 11:02 AM
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    Also interested in this post. I bought the TRD Sport and coming from a Chevy Suburban it rides very harsh over bumps. I swapped the wheels and tires to 275/70R18 and noticed a bit softer of a ride, but it's still pretty stiff. I'll be doing light offroading as well, but nothing hardcore. I'm thinking the Sport came with stiffer shocks than the offroad, but I'm not certain.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2019 at 11:06 AM
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  8. Mar 6, 2019 at 11:27 AM
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    I dig your response. I couldn't care less about having "top tier" coil overs but dont want garbage either. I'm definitely leaning towards the Eibach setup due to the price to performance ratio.

    How would you compare the ride quality compared to stock?
     
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  9. Mar 6, 2019 at 11:34 AM
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    The 6112/5160 combo used to be pretty close in price to the Eibach kit, which would've been a no brainer in my view.
     
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    I had TRD Bilsteins with a 3" spacer on the front (spacer courtesy of PO). The Eibachs ride smoother on and off road, noticeably more bottoming resistance. I did go with JBA UCA's at the same time, so that helped with some funky handling characteristics as well. I was getting some bump steer and my wheel didn't self-center that well prior to the coilovers and UCA's.

    A year later everything still looks and performs great.

    I will agree that if the 6112's were the same price I would lean that way just because of the larger valve body. If you need more performance than the Eibachs I would just make the jump to BOSS.
     
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    Perfect! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
     
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    I have to admit, 99.9% of my miles are highway. Pretty much 100 miles a day. So I was thinking Eibach since there won't be any off-road abuse and seems like the price is the best around. So, with my use, I'd be better off going with the Eibach and saving the money versus the 6112s?
     
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    I paid $719 for my 6112s pre assembled and rear 5100s were $148. The toytec kit isn’t much different in price.
     
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    FRONT: $475 -forum discount.
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    http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-products-shock-nitro-jeep-toyota-tundra-wrangler/7952
    $41.50 each.

    You can get the Eibachs set at the middle clip just to level, or you can go bottom clip position for 3/1.

    If you go 3/1 you'll need an option to get a little rear lift. I went with the Tuff Country Add-a-leaf. But you could go with shackles or a leaf pack, avoid the temptation of blocks.
    https://www.suspensionconnection.com/85750-tundra-add-a-leafs.html
    $98.98

    I personally went with UCA's, although not required depending on if you lift or level depending on who you ask.
    https://jbaoffroad.com/jba-hd-upper-a-arms-for-lifted-toyota-tundra.html
    $539.95

    There you have a 3/1 kit for under $660.
    Add UCA's and you're still under $1200.
     
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    Is it worth it to have 4wheelparts install and get their 5 year 60k mike warranty?
     
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    Some people hate that place. But I don’t think they are all bad. Are you mechanically inclined? I saved a lot by installing mine myself. But obviously no warranty comes with that. If you’re not into doing it yourself maybe shop around and get some quotes with alignment included. Do your research so you can make an informed decision on who you are using and their warranty.
     
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    I feel pretty confident that I could install them myself, just wondering if not having to do it and the peace of mind of the warranty is worth it. They have 6112's for under $700, so installed with 5100's in the rear, aligned and warranty would be around $1400 out the door.
     
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    That doesn’t sound too bad to me. I do like warranties.
     
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    If you can do it yourself and save $500. Do it. It’s very straightforward. All they are warranting is the work. So they are giving you a warranty on unbolting the old and bolting the new in? I could understand if they were dropping crossmember or putting on an 8” lift, but this is a direct swap.
     
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    Agreed. If you're confident in you're work, own a torque wrench, and will recheck your work after a few hundred miles, then I say save the money and enjoy a Saturday in the driveway.

    I like 4wheel parts and I think they're phone tech support actually knows what they're talking about, we use them quite a bit at work. I just trust myself more than their techs. But I also enjoy working on my own stuff and saving money.
     
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    Shit. A Saturday? I had front and rears knocked out in 4 hours on jack stands. Lol.
     
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    Breakfast. Coffee. Work. Play with dogs. Lunch. Beer. Work. Beer. Work. Admire work. Beer. Yeah, full Saturday.
     
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    How much lift are the Zone off-road shocks good for? I think I can get away with the Eibachs on the 3" setting and nothing on the rear. My front measures 3.25" lower than the rear. I know, weird. I'll wait til I put them on to see the stance.
     
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    I found that the Zones were advertised as 1"-3" of rear lift for Tundra applications.
     
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