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Kings camburg uca install problem/SOLVED.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by BajaTurd, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Mar 8, 2019 at 5:32 PM
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    Had Toyota which I work for, as a writer, install the shocks and arms, they’re saying now that the sway bar won’t go back into place correctly. I went over it all a ton while it was in the air. It’s too late to call king or anyone else and i have the install paper work and gooogled like crazy.
    First pic is the passenger side, the direction of the shock they said is correct I just want to double check that the bushing is supposed to face the rear of the truck or the front right now it’s facing the rear.

    Second, on a 2019 tundra the sway bar bushings has a little square plastic part that goes in between the frame and the bushing, squeezed to square up the bushing in the mount. It won’t fit under the resi bracket so they took it off and tightened it up not the bushings are sloppy and not squared. Any input would be appreciated
     
  2. Mar 8, 2019 at 5:42 PM
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  3. Mar 8, 2019 at 5:46 PM
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    Have you considered taking the front bar off? Mine is off and so are many others. It's a better ride on and off road in my opinion.
     
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  4. Mar 8, 2019 at 5:54 PM
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    I have. But it concerns me that it’s not fitting. I didn’t have them adjust the height at all. And I want to make sure as far as the shocks direction goes is correct. I remember when I put my icons on my tacoma the lower bushings where directional. But for some reason I can’t find any posts about the kings. And it’s not in the directions each shock was just tagged left or right. And if I take the sway bar off it won’t ride like a wild bull going 80 on the freeway?
     
  5. Mar 8, 2019 at 6:15 PM
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    I remember the sway bar is a real pita. Those bushings are very hard to get in.

    The sway bar links are very hard to get back in. I had to jack up the arm a lot to get the bolt back in. So much that it lifted the truck off the stands
     
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    ok to clarify everything IS bolted back in but theyre saying that its going to hit the coil over.
     
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    No swaybar here, I use bumpstops as a swaybar.
    :muscleflexing:
     
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    I guess the point to me is, regardless if i want the sway bar on or not, it should all fit and clear properly with it on. so to me that means somethings off if its not lining up.
     
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    It's hard to follow the description here. Do you have any pics of the stance when the truck is on the ground?

    You mentioned you didnt have them adjust the height, does that mean you're sitting at stock height or whatever height King set up out of the box? From the top pic it looks like your truck is way up, the sway bars won't just easily bolt back up if that's the stance you have.
     
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    Ahhhh. Yeah the bottom cup on the king looks way closer to the link than my icons do
     
  12. Mar 8, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    Factory adjustment from king, didnt touch it so i think its 2-2.5"

    and they put it on the tires and left it till tomorrow, so if i take a picture from the front its kinda all tweaked because it needs an alignment so it wont really help.
     
  13. Mar 8, 2019 at 7:03 PM
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    So where did you buy, is this just stock height or what setting?

    Alignment will take care of this issue. To much caster.
     
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    Ok, you answered the lift question.

    You should be able to get into a good alignment with 2.5” if lift, but anything more than that, you will need a new TC upper.
     
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    I hear you OP that, whether or not you decide to keep the sway bar off, your concern is that it should fit. It does look to me in those pics that everyone is TIGHT in not a good way. Has it been aligned yet?

    +1 for, there's no point paying for King and Camburg suspension, then limiting it with a sway bar.
     
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    The lower shock mount spacers look okay. The sway bar links are hitting the lower spring perch. The sway bar bushings dont look to be correctly seated. The square pads that weren't put back in might be influencing the alignment change of the swaybar. The lower spring mount is much larger than what your stock shock had too.

    It's hard to tell what is going on because the pictures don't show the full story. If it were me I would remove the swaybar and make sure the axles are clear, get aligned and be done. Driving with no swaybar unleashes the travel you paid for, it let's that independent suspension be independent. It will drive fine on freeways, it will lean I to turns but won't buck.
     
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    This^^^
     
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    I do believe the lower spacers are backwards, red(long) towards the front, yellow(short) towards rear. Don’t have King directions, but that’s how others brands assemble. Alignment also can help with clearance.
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    Your sway bar bushings need the pads, see the gaps circled.
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    Got it. The reason I sound so frantic is usually I do this, but now that I’m working with techs at a dealership to do the install anything aftermarket is so alien to them they throw their hands up in the air and say no this pos isn’t meant for the Toyota lol. I just need hard facts to hit them back with to do what I need them to do. I’ll start with the alignment first thing in the morning and go from there. I deft understand the statement about paying for Kings get the suspension you paid for etc, so I’m going to sleen on having them just remove it and seeing what happens. Thank you for all the replies sorry it sounded so frantic. In the dealership world it’s all about hours flagged and getting shit in and out. Once they lose it they will blame something and say take it sometwhere else.
     
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    I say you if they can't figure out how to install Coilovers and swaybar then you need better techs or they were drinking on the job. I don't remember which way the mis-alignment spacers go but I would take the sway bar off- get alignment and if you want you can add the sway bar back to see if it fits correctly( which will probably make you fell better).
     
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    I also vote that the swaybar is not needed. Good coilovers like this are so much stiffer than stock shocks that the sway bar is redundant
     
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    Sway bar won't work without those blocks anyway. Unless you wanna hear it thump around by the frame.

    Good eye @Vizsla I couldn't tell if one spacer was longer than the other from how the mount is twisted.
     
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    im telling you guys i researched like crazy, i searched, camburg, camburg alignment, camburg uppers. kings install etc. i know theres info buried in threads but searching based on key words really didnt lead me to finding how much the added caster really throws everything off. my taco had icon uppers and was much more compliant with the install and fit etc. ANYWAYS. POST alignment everything straightened itself out and the bushing spacers are back in and no more issues. after driving it, the resis are on the softest setting and holy crap you guys are wild, even with the sway bar it had enough body roll to have fun. so if you guys are going with out it full time more power to you. after driving it a while and playing with the adjusters ill see about taking it off. AGAIN thanks for all the quick responses. It let me have a game plan heading into work today and getting it done!
     
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    Maybe the body roll is reduced moreso with e rated tires. The stock tires have very squishy sidewalls.

    My truck with icons cranked to 2.5 inches has less body roll without the sway bar than the truck had stock with it.
     
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    TRUUUU.... interesting. not going to lie i have my wheels already and once i pay most of this off was going to order tires. im gonna have fun with little tires for now hahah. it looks like a basic bitch sr5 kinda sleeper.
     

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