Factory Orange Peel 2019

I see some commentary in this thread that white is suspect to be single stage? Someone else mentioned black as well? Seems odd because single stage paint has become obsolete from paint suppliers in the last few years around Chicago. I believe California switched to non VOC water based basecoat clearcoat paint many years ago. Single stage paint by many car manufacturers disappeared decades ago in the mid 90's. Hard to believe Toyota re-introduced it. Where did someone find this information? Is it a credible source?

 

When we say single stage, doesn't mean catalysation of the paint, but the single coat of paint. It doesn't take an additional coat of clear over the top.

 

not pleased with the Orange peel on my black 2016. Was shocked to see so much all over the truck. Oh well.

 

Single Stage paint that I have shot is either Acrylic Enamel or Acrylic Urethane. Neither needs a clear even though there was a Urethane Clear which I have shot. But a catalyst was still used for the paint. It was called Hardener and Gloss Enchancer.
The Urethane was still available up until 3 years ago. Dupont Centari and PPG were brands I used. But now both are gone. Maybe Eastwood might still sell it for the restoration guys. Hard to believe Toyota has reintroduced it so, looking for the source of this claim.

 

Like I thought. It would be hard to imagine that Toyota would have reverted back to 30 year old urethane technology or 80 year old enamel technology. I am going to guess no matter the color it is base coat clear coat and probably water and not solvent based. Regarding orange peel that masks manufacturing imperfections. I know that some feel that spending $50k is all the money in the world but guys who have custom paint jobs done on some old car restorations get tagged for $30k plus just for the paint job. So even when you pay 50k for a new truck don't expect perfect. Its a mass produced item and not custom made.

 

The orange peel on my 2020 cement is terrible drives me nuts everytime I clean it

 

My 2019 has orange peel. It's probably no better or worse then the solid colors like white or black but because of the of the addition of other materials like metallic flake the orange peal isn't as noticeable but it is still there. I was contemplating wet sanding and possibly an additional coat of clear but I'm just not sure it is worth the trouble. That's a lot of work. The one area that the orange peel is magnified is under the clear, see through plastic rock/chip guards applied by the factory along the bottom edge of the truck to protect the paint from chips caused by rocks and road debris. For some reason the orange peel is very noticeable under the plastic.

As for wet sanding the paint it's not a problem if you know what you are doing. After de-badging and a wash with wax and grease remover you can wet sand with a good quality paper. I would likely start with 1000 grit and use long blocks. Where you get in trouble is sanding over creases and body lines/edges and corners. You can easily burn through sanding on an edge so extra caution is prudent when sanding around those areas. If burning through is a real concern you can always spray an additional coat or two of an appropriate clear coat before attempting to sand it flat. It's extra work but the benefits of an additional layer of clear go beyond just not burning through it while wet sanding so it's probably worth considering.

But for now there are other things to spend my time and money on. Now that I'm thinking about it it's probably time to go wash the beast. She be covered in a coat of dried mud from the extra wet winter we experienced here in California. Now that it looks like we are clear of anymore atmospheric rivers turning the place into a muddy mess my reasons for not washing it are sounding more like excuses.