Toyota brand 0w20

If they used regular Mobil 1, then they are not putting the specd' 0w20 oil in the engine. Regular Mobil 1 does not offer a 0w20, only a 5w20. To get 0w20 you have to go with Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy, Extended Performance, or Annual Protection.

 

C’mon, man. You don’t think Toyota is a big enough customer to warrant a special blend of straight Ow20? They’re not buying it at Walmart.

 

No, I don't. In fact, it is against the law. The law states that an advertised oil has to be the same regardless of where it is sold and to whom. Mobil 1 says so as well. This is a quote directly from their website: "The formulation and quality level of our motor oils are the same wherever the product name is the same, regardless of the package size in which it is sold."

 

Lol, ok man. Just trying to help. I get from your post that your mind is made up that you’re right. Remember that Toyota doesn’t sell Mobil 1. It sells Toyota brand oil. It’s not a Mobil 1 Branded SKU and doesn’t have to match anything branded Mobil 1.

 

My mind is made up based on the available evidence, not personal opinion, or wants. If you can show me evidence that Mobil takes the time to blend a "special" formulation of Mobil 1 that isn't available anywhere else in the world to customers just for Toyota, I would accept that evidence. Oil analysis of the Toyota branded oil indicates that it is Mobil Super, not a variation of Mobil 1, packaged in Toyota branded bottles through licensing.

 

I don’t have any idea what’s in Toyota oil. I was just pointing out that it’s ridiculous to say there’s “a law” that Toyota can’t offer straight 0w20 because it’s not available in a Mobil 1 branded jug that way.

 

And it looks like Toyota themselves point out that the additive package is “Toyota-specific.” Someone should tell them there’s a law against that...

http://toyota.custhelp.com/app/answ...~/can-i-use-any-brand-of-0w-20-synthetic-oil?

 

It isn't ridiculous if it is true, however, that is not what I said the law states. I said that the law states that an advertised oil has to be the same regardless of where it is sold and to whom, and that is a correct statement. Why are you being so combative when I am just pointing out facts? I was not being ugly or giving my opinion, just stating facts. You can disagree with me all that you like, but facts don't change just because you don't like them.

Let it go, man.

 

What does advertised Mobil 1 oil have to do with what’s in Toyota oil?

 

It's "Toyota specific" in that they looked for an oil that met their criteria for additives, and Mobil Super met that criteria. It certainly doesn't say that it is Toyota made and mixed additives. You're reaching now.

 

Because further up in this thread, a poster claimed that Toyota oil was regular Mobil 1, which doesn't have the correct Toyota spec and I corrected that assertion. Then, you chimed in and implied that Toyota and Mobil have an agreement for a special blend of 0w20, which is also incorrect. There is no supportable evidence of that.

 

It’s all good, man. I’m just gonna leave this here and then I’m out. It just rubs me the wrong way when someone says “in fact” and then ridiculousness pours out after. Feel free to have the last word on this.

 

I apologize. You are absolutely correct. I do not know what I am talking about in the lest. Thank you.

 

Amsoil. Signature. Every 6 k

 

I used pennzoil 0w-20 didn't notice anything difference yet

 

The Toyota FAQ referred to,
http://toyota.custhelp.com/app/answ...~/can-i-use-any-brand-of-0w-20-synthetic-oil?
also states:
" However, other 0W-20 synthetic oils can be used as long as they are ILSAC certified, "

I keep on-hand a qt of Valvoline 0W20 synthetic, product code VV916 , and it's ILSAC certified on the bottle.
https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil/advanced-full-synthetic-motor-oil

Also note, Tundra service manual specifies 0W20 for USA & Canada, but Mexico has wider range of approved oil :

API grade SL "Energy-Conserving", SM "Energy-Conserving", SN "Resource-Conserving" or ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil : 0W-20 , 5W-20 , 5W-30 , 10W-30
or
API grade SL, SM or SN multigrade engine oil : 15W-40 , 20W-50​

Does anyone really think engines destined for mexico are machined to different tolerances, or manufactured with different bearings & materials than USA/Canada?!

0W is advantageous for fast lubrication upon startup , and very cold temps ... but the mania for 0W oils is indirectly dictated by US gov't mandates for fuel economy.
When the 3UR engine's tolerances start getting sloppier in 50K-75K miles, 0W20 doesnt seem the wisest choice ... at such time 5W30, 5W40, 0W40 may be a better choice. Many German cars already use 0W40 as their factory fill.

 

For some reason running 0w-20 in our V8 rubs me the wrong way. I would feel more comfortable running 5-20 or 5-30

 

+1 I do it cause Toyota says so, but im not cool with it.
Its interesting @KirthGersen mentioned regarding the recommended grades for Mexico. I know nothing of the internal tolerances of the 3UR but this thing cant be rocket science, its a toyota.