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Super swampers cracking

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by ethan1911, Jul 29, 2018.

  1. Jul 29, 2018 at 5:30 AM
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    17161362-80EB-4E88-8DB3-7610B96BC7DB.jpg 5D416C3D-9D26-4122-9F93-77A0EFBC7482.jpg I bought these tires last September and I’m starting to notice a lot of cracks in the sidewalls anyone else have problems like this with newer tires? I’m not very happy with the quality of these so far, I have bigo brand mud tires on my fathers 4runner and they are holding up way better
     
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  2. Jul 29, 2018 at 5:49 AM
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    Check the date code and see when they were made...I bet they are older than you think...
     
  3. Jul 29, 2018 at 6:39 AM
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    There made in the 15th week of 2017. The date code is the last four digits of the stamping on the sidewall in the first pic.
     
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  4. Jul 29, 2018 at 8:28 AM
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    Is it just me or does the serial number look like it was added on? Looks like an old one was scratched off and that on placed on top...
     
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    Do you air up and down often?
     
  6. Jul 29, 2018 at 9:49 AM
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    Does look kind of effed up doesn’t it? Either way I think I’d be down at the tire shop telling them to give me a new set.
     
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  7. Jul 29, 2018 at 9:55 AM
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    I run 40psi constantly. Yeah it does look kind of odd I ordered them from 4wheel parts so I don’t think they have been altered. I sent them an email on the problem so we’ll see what they have to say.
     
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  8. Jul 29, 2018 at 9:57 AM
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    Not good. All four like that? I'd be going back to the tire dealer.
     
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  9. Jul 29, 2018 at 10:01 AM
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    3 out of 4 are like that, I think it’s a bad batch because the 3 that are bad all have the same date code
     
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  10. Jul 30, 2018 at 3:49 AM
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    Yea I would be looking for them to give me a new set. We run a set of the TSL's on an old chevy and ours never cracked that quickly. That truck doesn't get driven much unfortunately and currently needs work done. I looked at it recently though and when it gets fixed up, tires will need to be replaced as well because all 4 have big dry rot cracks in them, but they are about 12 years old.
     
  11. Jul 30, 2018 at 4:33 AM
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    Welcome to the Joe Dirt of tires. Pretty common.
     
  12. Aug 1, 2018 at 3:45 PM
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    Well 4wheel parts still hasn’t responded so I called interco. They wanted me to dismount and pay to send them in so they could inspect them for a prorated warranty then give me credit. I told them I wouldn’t send them any tires unless I knew before hand what the deal was and that there all 17-19/32nds when new there 21/32nds tread. Later I received a email saying they would only pay 68% of replacement cost and I would have to pay shipping on the new set. Long story short it’s not worth it to warranty them, I guess I’m going to try to sell them for offroad use and buy another brand.
     
  13. Aug 1, 2018 at 4:34 PM
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    That sucks man, sorry to hear that.
    Hope you find something that works for you.
    What kinda tire you looking to get?
     
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  14. Aug 1, 2018 at 4:48 PM
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    Which one? There’s like 10 different super swampers that range from radial to bias to competition. And they are extremely sensitive to air pressure on-road. Sorry but 40 psi in any SS is gonna send that tire into early retirement no matter what.
     
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    Too much psi or not enough?
     
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    Too high. You really have to do a chalk test with SS tires and be diligent with tire pressure if you are staying on-road. I personally hate them because they wear like shit, loud, obnoxious, shitty side bite, suck dick in the rain and borderline useless in the snow or ice. But damn they can fling some mud if that’s what floats your boat.
     
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    They still make Super Swampers?
     
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    There 13/33-16 tsl bias ply the sidewalls say 45psi max ( don’t give me the tire pressure vs truck weight speech I already know about that) I live in Missouri and I’m in lake mud often that’s why I chose them. I’m considering either maxxis or Yokohama for my next set.
     
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    Called it @jberry813 lmao.

    That’s pretty shitty what interco and 4wp is being soooo helpful. I don’t shop at either places. My only SS tires were some SSR’s. Horrible was a compliment to those tires in CO.

    What kind of Maxxis are you considering? Damn good tires.
     
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    Iroks are the only Interco tires worth a damn in any terrain outside of mud...and I think the only ones they designed for road use were the Trxus M/T
     
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    Well, the TSL SX stickies are pretty bad ass, but damn are those 43” tires just huge. Axle breakers for sure.

    I just stick with old reliable 40” MTR stickies. No sidewall issues, do great in rocks, pretty good in snow, suck balls in mud.
     
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    Not anymore! Roll tide.
     
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    Sorry to hear you are not having any luck getting them replaced. I damn sure wouldn't be paying shipping on sending those back in, those damn things are heavy! We run the original TSL bias, in a 36x12.50-15 and have had good luck with them, but they are definitely ones you have to watch out with. After sitting for a while, those things flat spot horribly, and feels like driving a dang wagon until they get good and warmed up to even back out.
     
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    What do you clean the tires with?
     
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    I am going to need you to clarify this, since I am an MTR nut swinger. I have had 0 issues in this midwest muck in my jeep. Maybe I am not wheeling hard enough? We talking deep mud or like the occasional crap you have to go through to get to the next obstacle?
     
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    Do they work in mud? Yes.
    Are they as good as a SS TSL? No

    The MT/R has been one of the best all around tires I have ever owned. Sipe the center lugs for winter use and they are pretty decent.

    I have owned all three tread designs as well.
     
  30. Aug 13, 2018 at 6:38 AM
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    Ah, i understand. Generally, i avoid mud. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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