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Let's talk towing capacity!

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by racervx54, May 16, 2015.

  1. May 16, 2015 at 5:34 AM
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    Ok 2015 cm trd pro here. What's the difference between the 7200 lbs and the 10k towing capacity? I am assuming the only difference is the hitch. Class 3 vs Class 5? Anyone have any info?

    Reason I am asking I have a 28 ft enclosed at about 8000 to 8500 lbs.

    Thanks
     
  2. May 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM
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    Look in your owner's manual. Find your truck Model code and engine size and you'll have what you're looking for. Just be sure and watch all the fine print and foot notes.
     
  3. May 29, 2015 at 1:21 PM
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    Yea i read that. I guess my question is what's the difference between the 7,200lbs and the 10,000lbs. Is it the hitch because everything else is the same.
     
  4. May 31, 2015 at 4:28 PM
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    Not sure what they do on the Tundras...on the Tacos (3500# vs 6400#) the difference is a Class 4 hitch, 7 pin connector, wiring for a brake controller, tranny cooler, engine oil cooler, and some computer controlled sway control stuff. Look in the specs and see what is listed on the Tundra in the Factory Tow package...could be quite a bit. Usually the lower rating is simply a Port installed hitch and a trailer plug. I assume the Pro comes with the 5.7? My 1st gen has a 4.7 and it has a 7400# rating with factory tow package.
     
  5. May 31, 2015 at 6:46 PM
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    One thing to consider is that the 5.7L Tow package option also includes rear leafs with increased spring rates over stock setup and 4.3:1 diff giving it the higher tow rating
     
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  7. Apr 19, 2016 at 12:29 PM
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    My TRD Pro has a REDUCED leaf spring rate. Payload is reduced by 55 lbs.
    Payload is now 1185 lbs. Tow capacity is 9,200. If I towed a 9000 lb. TT, with a 900 lb tongue weight (10%), my remaining payload would only be 285 lbs. I weigh 208, so now I can only put 77 lbs. of stuff in the bed! So technically, you can be rated to pull a trailer that weighs x amount of pounds, but with hitch weight, fuel, camping items, and people, your tow vehicle could be overloaded.
     
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  8. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM
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    Doesn't change your tow capacity.
     
  9. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:13 PM
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  10. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM
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    Hey Matt, I think he's referring to the air bags.
     
  11. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:33 PM
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    Dang it!!! :thumbsup::frusty::frusty:
     
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  12. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:37 PM
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    Must be really cold up there. Come down to SoCal and thaw out.
     
  13. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:42 PM
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  14. Apr 19, 2016 at 6:42 PM
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    I wouldn't worry too much. A Tundra can pull 12,000-13,000 lbs reliably, so if you're over the GVWR by 500-1000, eh.
     
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  16. Apr 20, 2016 at 5:24 AM
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  17. Apr 20, 2016 at 10:29 AM
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    Let's keep in mind that GVWR, GCWR, and max tow capacity are designed as maximums. The ratings are determined by engine output, axle ratios, vehicle structure and weight, chassis design, suspension design, hitch class, tire ratings & load capacity, cooling capability, brakes, etc. It's not arbitrary and the values set are to keep you, passengers, and surroundings safe.

    Some people thing "heck I added a supercharger, now I can haul more." It's not just power output. In fact, if you have a s/c installed by the dealer, they add a sticker to the door jam stating that GVWR is REDUCED by 13 pounds due to the extra weight of the s/c and components.

    GVWR specifically is based on federal restrictions. The vehicle has to meet federal stopping requirements. Max tow capacity is founded on the SAE JS807 standard. Think of these as semi torture-tests that include handing performance (under/over steer, trailer sway), braking performance (stopping distance as well as parking brake hold on an incline), structural performance on the hitch, acceleration and braking performance on a level road and 12% grade, cooling capacity in the middle of a fucking desert. Again...not arbitrary. Be smart, tow safe.
     
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    Uhh...I mean "RAWR! I'm angry! Fuck everybody! Ignore facts and give only opinion. Look at my avatar. RAWR!"
     
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    I don't get a lot of compliments. Wasn't sure how to react.
     
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    This forum obviously doesn't censor crude language, but I do. Compliment has been deleted.
     
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    Eh? I guess I forgot the sarcastic font.
    Didn't mean to offend. Those that know my "normal" post style would have understood. :cheers:
     
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    Knowledgeable and we do appreciate the facts you provide. THANK YOU AGAIN JASON!
     
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    Hey Matt,
    You are welcome here anytime my friend. I totally understand where you are coming from. I will no longer be posting on this forum. Contact the moderator guys, they'll have a phone number for you. God bless you. Jesse.
     
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    Really dude? Your getting butt hurt because a guy said fuck on a truck forum?!? Get real for fuck sake.
     
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    I swear to you I thought about that when I was posting my comment! Funny shit!
     
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    You know I used to hate Jason, but with passion lol.
    He's one of those guys once you get to know, he truly means well and is only providing his (respected) input.
    Jason once told me "I don't care if I see my worst enemy on the road, stranded, stuck, etc. I will still go out and rescue him to ensure he's ok."
    He said this in-person to me, and was sincere. Does he always have the best way with words? No sir, but it's just how he is. He's one of those guys you meet in person, and is truly a good dude with a real sense of humor. He's got my approval :thumbsup:
     
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