LANE KEEP ASSIST/Centering - do you use it?

My daughters Explorer St with BlueCruise is awesome, shoot my 19 mustangs radar cruise is dam good also. I dont think Toyota is awesome but it a dam bit better than most.

 

The question is will she pay for it once the free subscription runs out? Currently $49.95 per month or $495 per year.

 

I haven’t used one that is worse

 

100% she will, they do a lot of road trips and love it. $500 a year isn’t a big deal. Pretty much everything we do is going that way, doesn’t bother me either.

 

Maybe. Mine is just an SR5

 

I knew the button did more. So I played with it yesterday. If you push and hold for a few seconds, it'll turn off whatever is currently on. Then it's just a tap to turn those back on. Then another tap just cycles the lane centering off and on.

 

I find the centered mode lane assist too annoying to use. I can feel all the micro adjustments the system makes in the steering wheel and it seems really jerky. I wish there was a way to mellow it out a bit (slow gradual adjustments). I do use lane assist without centering on long trips on the highway. It's also really helpful when you're looking out the side windows in a National Park because you want to take in the view and not run off the road.

I have found at times that lane assist will try and crash my truck in the city. It can get confused (especially when the sun is causing a lot of glare) and will try and run you off the road. I've had this happens a few times and that's why I typically keep it turned off.

 

I find it interesting how the exact same system can be hated by some and loved by others. Says a lot about people, I guess. Will leave it at that.
I like my truck's safety system (22 SR5).
Dynamic cruise works great and lane centering works great. I realize that it is a truck, not a Mercedes or Tesla, and accepts it as that, therefor I do not have unrealistic expectations.
If Toyota improves it on future models I will be glad to have that, but for the time being I am happy with the way it works.

 

LTA is not terrible with tighter constraints, its does what it claims. LCA is not up to par, it wanders way too much to be considered centering. These modes should be combined. DRCC is pretty good, it is very limited by compute and sadly can not be updated or improved. I do like DRCC, saves fuel and is fairly responsive, except in quick decision situations. I also noticed high lift or high trailer vehicles are not (seen) read by the system well. Ive had my DRCC creep up way to close to a big rig several times, and slow/stop way too late in other normal driving conditions. The main issue is when the cameras and the sensors do not jive, the computer is very slow to make a decision. I stopped using LTA/LCA and only use DRCC, but I do not trust it in traffic or very busy road conditions.

 

I know what you mean. LCA ping pongs me side to side too much. I thought I seen a setting where you can tweak it some. I may be thinking of park sensors though. Shortly after I got my truck in 22, I was playing around with LTA and it tried to run me off the road. It was just a side road and the lines were hot or miss. After a couple times , I quit playing with it unless I'm on the interstate with good solid lines.

 

Adaptive cruise control and lane assist on my 2025 Platinum is far below the quality and accuracy of my 2023 Kia Telluride. The KIA is like putting on autopilot and is a pleasure to use. On the Tundra it's a joke and I leave it off. It does not pick up lines that well espescially yellow ones. The Tundra drifts between lane markers when using centering it's jerky. I don't understand why it's not smoother and more accurate than it is. I see others have the same issue. Also it does not track accurately going around curves like my KIA. Any recommendations or is this the way Tundra's are?

 

Sadly, that's what's you get with Lane Centering in the Gen 3 Tundra. There are sensitivity settings for in it in the menus that you access from the steering wheel. I've experiment with those settings, but they don't seem to make any difference.

Lane Centering was a swing and a miss in the new Tundras.

 

I've noticed my LCA works well on the highway and interstate under normal conditions, but if there’s a 20–30 yard gap in the lane markings, the system starts swaying left or right without warning. Also, if one lane line fades (the left or right line disappears), it doesn’t maintain the lane using the remaining solid line, it just drifts or disengages. I thought i read a comment on how it can be tweaked! or maybe this is just how it’s designed. Has anyone found a way to improve its performance? Appreciate any tips or tutorials.

 

I wish GM would license their Super Cruise system to other mfgs. Toyota is just so far behind on this tech... It would also be nice to have one standard system.

 

I only use it since I don't have a 25 with massage seatss!!!!

 

I travel a lot for work. So, I have driven dozens of brands of different (rental) cars. Hands down, without exception, the Tundra is the worst system I have witnessed. It is comically bad. How the largest car manufacturer in the world could release such poor system is shocking to me. Just my opinion. (But I still llike my truck overall). I agree with the poster above on the Kia remark, my kids both have Hyundai Tucsons. Late model, affordable, (got them under $20K each - used). I'll tell you what, they track the road like they are on rails, and you don't need to have criuse control enabled. My wife's Honda Pilot is the same. Just not sure what happened with Toyota here.

 

Agree that Lane Centering can be a great help, and yet I’ve also find sometimes a curse. Long drive it is sure helpful late in the drive when tired. I also found but it can add to considerable hand fatigue from gently fighting it, mostly for me in bad or windy weather. It will wear you out as well if you tow a big trailer.

FWIW - Highly suggest if you have larger tires or a lift that if you haven’t, go & get your safety system recalibrated at the dealer. Makes a huge difference in the overall cruise and safety systems time to respond when they’re out of calibration. While you're there get them to readjust your headlights. My co-worker had a cracked windshield replaced after a wreck (airbag deployment), and collision center didn’t calibrate their Denali 2500’s safety system. Vehicle kept doing hard panic stops in traffic. Took it to dealer and they fixed in 1/2 hour.

 

IMO they should have designed the hand detection to be a capacitive sensor in the steering wheel instead of the force based system we have. I know, then it might not work with gloves. But with heated steering wheel you never need gloves.

 

We have a 2021 Honda CRV. The lane centering keeps it in the center of the lane no ping-pong and back-and-forth.
On our 2023 tundra, it sort of just pushes you side to side doesn’t keep you centered at all.

 

My GF got a 2025 CRV Sport Hybrid a few months ago. I need to drive it so I can see for myself how the lane centering works. I am really disappointed in the Tundra's. The ping ponging is bad enough but it can't handle much in the way of hilly curves without just dropping offline.

 

Our Gen 3 Tundras read the lane lines from the camera on the windshield behind the rearview mirror. I've had that camera fail on my truck. The tech who did the warranty replacement said the front cameras have been a consistent problem on all new Toyota models.

My thinking is the poor quality of the cameras combined with the larger distance from the lines is likely why Lane Centering is so poor compared to smaller vehicles from other manufactures.

As others have said, I've driven vehicles in which lane centering felt like you were on rails. No noticeable ping-ponging at all. It would be nice if Toyota addressed this problem, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Good on the open Hwy and especially at night. It sees the lines better. Must watch the off-ramps. It panics when that right line swings away.
Our new KIA is hands-off it’s so good. I’ve heard that SS 3.0 on the new Tacomas is much much better.

 

I guess "good" is totally subjective.

I've driven cross-country 4 times in my '23 and still haven't found a stretch of highway, or the right conditions, in which I felt Lane Centering was good. I would rate it below average at best compared to other vehicles.

 

Agree. Good at best. I also have a 23 and have done five 1200 mi trips btwn WA/CA. I don’t bother during the daylight with LCA but adaptive cruise set to long distance behind another vehicle traveling the speed I want and also using cruise so speed isn’t up/down is very relaxing. Only on flat land of course and there’s lots of that in that trip. I’d call our KIAs LCA Great. Can go hands off for a full minute and it doesn’t ping pong even in daylight. Handles curves really well too if well marked.

 

I have found some stretches of highway on my 1025 mile drive to and from FL where the Tundra lane centering works well, mostly down south where the roads are straight and flat. In fact, when it is really locked in, I have to go out of my way to add inputs so it knows my hands are on the wheel. But this is the exception. Here in MD with the hills and curves on the Interstates it isn't very good at all.

 

Drove south of Houston to DFW this am. I find myself using the non-active cruise over the active on highway trips. If you haven’t done that, it’s like the old fashion cruise - just hold the cruise power button down for 2-3 seconds and it goes to a dumb system. I get better mpg using that mode than the active cruise. Shows up on the IP as a small green speedo idiot light just like the active way, but without using the sonar symbology. The lane centering gets ridiculous if you change lanes at highway speed and don’t use your turn signal, as it fights you the whole way. Probably shouldn’t do that, but it does happen in the real world.

 

I had a loaner 25 Tacoma TRD OR with the Hybrid and the lane centering is 100% better than my 24 Tundra, it feels like a normal person is driving and not some dude coming home from the bar ay 1am.

 

With Lane Centering on both our Sequoia & Tundra probably look like Swervin’ Marlon going down the road.

 

After using the system rigorously I have to say I turned off the Lane Tracing Assist as it just not smooth and is always ping ponging around in the lane. I played around with its settings some but always found it more distracting than helpful. That being said I really like the Lane Keeping Assist and DRCC. They both work great on the highway and i find they ease driver fatigue on long trips, especially the DRCC. As i mentioned on a previous post, I like the fact Toyota included these features as part of the vehicle and not a package add on.

 

Mine does the same thing, lane centering is more like lane swerving