Does toyota update their vehicles like other manufacturers?

Is my truck now a time capsule? I had a rental hundae and a Tesla for bisiness away from home and the Lane centering in those cars feels like the car locks in and rides on rails.
My 2022 tundra lane centering is always on the edge of killing me unless its a perfect straight highway. If there's even a brief break in the lines for an exit or the road bends more than 8 degrees, beep beep, time to die.
This is purely a software issue, so am I going to see any improvement?

 

You aren’t really comparing Toyota safety sense with Tesla are you? Your benchmark is a little out of whack, if so.

The system isn’t going to drive for you, it is an assist. If you are trying to find the limits of its capabilities, you will find them easily.

That said, if I’m on a straight road, I can take hands off the wheel for several seconds before it yells at me. It tracks pretty well in that time. Anything more than a gentle curve, it will not follow the lane.

If you are saying it’s dangerous to use because it is directing you outside your lane while you have your hands on the wheel and maintaining control, take it to the dealer and show them.

 

Lane assist is great for putting on your sunglasses, changing a radio station or any other chore that requires part of your attention for a few seconds.

 

Are you sure your Lane Centering is turned on? It has to be enabled in the MID. Once it's on there, it gets activated when you turn on Lane Tracing (button on right side of steering wheel) AND have cruise control on. Lane Centering is automatically deactivated if your truck detects that a trailer has been connected and you have to manually turn it back on in the MID once the trailer is disconnected.

Lane Centering works OK under the right circumstances, but there are literally several pages in the manual that describe when it won't work. It'll never work like Tesla, GM, or Ford but you're not paying a monthly subscription for it either.

 

The truck isn’t self driving. Your expectations are unrealistic. It is no more than a mild assist and will never be anything more than that.

 

As it should be.

 

it also depends on the color of the Payment and the Lane lines some work better than others.

 

As mentioned, the only thing lane centering is good for is...well...nothing.

Even on a perfect straight away with good lines, it constantly ping pongs left and right, like a drunk is behind the wheel.

And, since you still have to keep a hand on the wheel, lane centering is pointless. Just steer the truck yourself.

 

May be some improvements in 2025. Mine does a pretty good job of centering.

 

Are you saying you can't feel Lane Centering constantly making slight steering adjustments, and over-corrections, even on a straight away?

The first time I used lane centering was on a long roadtrip. It caused my wife to wake from a nap and ask me, "Why are you swerving so much?"

 

I have always understood it is an assist only. I like it as a safety feature when I have to drive long distances. Had to drive Chicago to Denver recently straight through. I liked how when I got a little tired and started to lane drift I got beeped and knew it was time to pull over and get some sleep.

 

Turn it off and drive.

 

It’s pretty smooth. Perfect? No. But it doesn’t wander between the lines. Generally stays pretty well centered. No jerky motions.

 

I think you might be talking about Lane Departure, not Lane Centering. They are 2 different features within Toyota's Lane Tracing Assist system.

Lane Departure detects when you are swerving out of the lane, and gives you a warning buzzer. It will also assist in steering the truck back into the lane. If you fail to use your turn signals to change lanes, it will fight you. It nearly caused an accident for me when a merging vehicle apparently didn't see me. I attempted a quick lane change to avoid the collision, but it tried to keep me in the lane because I didn't use the turn signal. That was the last time I used it.

Lane Centering is a bit different. It's suppose to keep the truck centered in the lane, even on slight curves, when you are using radar cruise. It's a poorly implemented feature, IMO. I've driven other vehicles with the same feature that worked much better.

 

Interesting. Maybe they did make some improvements since my truck was built. I can definitely feel small jerky motions as the system hunts for the lines side to side. I've also tried the different sensitivity levels, with the same result.

Definitely a first world problem, though.

 

My 25 works just okay, and I don't use it much. My wife's 6 year old Honda is wayyy better, and I use it all the time. So, I get where OP is coming from.

 

If you don’t like the feeling of the steering wheel making a movement that you didn’t initiate, you probably won’t like it. It does take getting used to. I keep my hands on the wheel and steer. On the occasion that I take hands off for whatever reason, it does a good job of keeping things going straight.

I spent a couple years in a 2018 BMW 740, and that system was not as good. I was pretty disappointed in the BMW.
A lot of the “feel” is subjective. My experience with other systems leaves me feeling like this system is pretty good. I haven’t driven other tundra’s, so I can’t make a fair comparison, but outside of Tesla, this is the best experience I’ve had with this kind of system.

 

We bought a 24 Civic with this feature. I wasn't aware of it when I took the feature until while entering the Interstate from a standard entrance ramp I felt a shimmy in the steering wheel. I was taught to not use a left signal when entering a limited access highway and staying in the right lane. Since I didn't signal the system didn't like that and thought I was departing my lane. For the most part the Honda does well. When lanes widen or at intersections where the white line isn't present it does ping pong. Place a half full water bottle on the steering wheel spoke and it will go for miles on end.

 

I think that's probably most of my problem with the system. It initiates small steering adjustments that aren't necessary.

My truck tracks better than any vehicle I've owned, so I was expecting the Lane Centering to feel like its on rails. I was probably expecting too much.

And again, since you have to keep a hand on the wheel anyway, I don't see any point to Lane Centering. I can easily steer a better line myself.

 

I dont want it to stop at stoplight and make right hand turns. I just want it to either keep itself in the lane or not be constantly deciding that a pull out is the direction to drive in. I'll be on a highway, good lines, and suddenly it will try to merge into the car to my right because the line got a little washed out for a bit.

My whole gripe is that even hundai is releasing lane centering that feels solid, so is toyota such a dinosaur that I should never expect my truck to get any better since the issue is purely software?

 

I’ve used it 5 times exclusively on the 1200 mi trek btwn WA and CA except for Mtns. It does work way better at night vs day. More line contrast for the camera to follow. I feel much more rested after this trip vs the Taco before it w/o lanetrace assist.

 

I used it for 5 minutes the day I bought my truck, then turned it off. Don't need it or want it.

 

Consider a 2025. Just go test drive one and compare with yours.

If yours operates like you describe, I agree, it’s not worth using.

 

Agree it is like a first gen assist pkg. The new Safety Sense 3.0 is reported to be heads above what we have in 2.5. I believe the new Tacoma got 3.0. Our 2025 KIA’s assist is awesome and I can be hands off for minutes in most cases. Even in curves. Gotta always be on top of it though.

 

Why are you sure it's purely software related?

LTA uses the front camera on your windshield to recognize the lane lines. I've already had a front camera fail and replaced under warranty. My service tech said the front cameras have been a problem thru-out the Toyota models.

Perhaps the poor LTA performance has more to do with the quality of cameras than software?

 

This is a problem when software has too much control for its 'brain'. If it can't detect and avoid an emergency, then it has no place hindering control of the vehicle.

 

Agreed.

Not all the Nanny features are bad, though. The front and rear collision detection system has saved my bacon a couple of times.