Break-in oil changes...

Sweet, congrats!

 

Yeah, but that's private. It does the public little good.

 

Still spreading incorrect, proven wrong information.

You really should go back and re-read every single one of my posts. It has been shown what exactly is different.

The short block is the EXACT same across i-FORCE & i-FORCE MAX. They even share the same part number now.

 

Did you trade in the GMC?

 

You appear to be correct, as the PN 11410-F9160 is the current one, there are some PNs which I am not sure if they have been superceded with that one. Which makes me wonder when in the process do they take a HV block and drill out the necessary holes for connection to the HV equipment? It is a weird offset block kind of like what Toyota did with the previous v8 but I guess it is for efficiency and maybe cooling but looks like reliability would suffer some. There has to be some machining process or something they are going to do different with the HV blocks. No way they can use the same connection points without blocking those parts off on the non-hybrid blocks. This would require more man hours and processing time for HV motors vs the standard gas engines.

 

There are no holes on the block that are unique to the Hybrid.

 

That really does not make sense since there is an EV motor that sits between it and the transmission, also the absence of a normal starter electric motor.

The HV motor when it debuted made Ward's 10 best engines list. The 3.4 liter gas motor did not.

 

Well, guess I have to make a visit to the shop. Every time I gas up I hear what sounds like a starter.

 

It has a starter but it is powered off the High Voltage System not a 12 Volt system unit. The next thing subo will tell us is that the man hours, QC/QA, and building process is the same for the HV vs the Gas burner. This couldn't be the case since these motors are assembled with the Orange HV systems attached.

 

It's not a traditional hybrid motor. It is quite different to what we're use to seeing. Having seen the back of each motor, there are ZERO differences on the block.

The Tundra HV has a traditional 12V starter.

 

damn I was confused for a moment...

 

Ooooh.

I got it. You were never here.

 

Wrong, it uses the HV system. Unplug the battery connector at the back of the truck and you are not starting the truck.

 

The Tundra HV does not get it's high voltage Hybrid cables installed until it is on the line at TMMTX. They are not installed at TMMAL.

How do I know this? I've toured TMMTX and know that the engine from TMMAL does not have the high voltage lines already installed.

You can see for yourself here: https://pressroom.toyota.com/facility/toyota-motor-manufacturing-alabama/

 

tell it to AI then geez

Yes, the 2022 Toyota Tundra's 3.4-liter twin-turbo V6 engine in the i-FORCE MAX hybrid system uses a high-voltage system to start the engine, according to Toyota and MotorTrend. The hybrid system utilizes a 48-hp electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission, and this electric motor is powered by a high-voltage battery.
Here's a more detailed explanation:

• i-FORCE MAX Hybrid System:
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This system combines a 3.4-liter twin-turbo V6 engine with an electric motor and a 10-speed automatic transmission.

• Electric Motor as a Starter:
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The electric motor, located between the engine and transmission, acts as the primary starter, according to Toyota and MotorTrend.

Oh and I am pretty sure that website you linked said this
Twin-turbo V6 + HEV engines (Tundra, Sequoia)

which is different than what you said.

 

I now understand why you think you are 100% right. You're relying on AI. That's actually quite funny.

I've seen all of this with my own two eyes and trust that much more than any Google AI, etc.

Here is a screenshot from Toyota's own training.

 

Or quit trusting garbage AI?

Start looking up stuff you personally know and you'll see AI is wrong about half the time. Best thing you can do is skip the AI overview and get down to actual results and do research. AI is retarded as shit at this point in time.

 

Great, then explain why you can not just unplug the HV system and drive the truck as a gasoline only option?

It could be using the HV system and then stepped down to 12V. Still the truck will not run without the orange safety plug in.

 

I feel like this is a deepfake account trolling everyone to make 3rd gen owners sound stupid.

 

The MG (Motor Generator) acts as the alternator. Goodness. You truly aren't as smart as you think you are on the subject. Nearly three days of this and you still think you are the SME.

 

I never said I was a subject matter expert. I installed a TRD Pro steering wheel into my truck and found out some system things during the process. How hard would it have been to put an extra accessory belt on it with an alternator and allow the truck to run without Hybrid assist. Then you have programs like you do know which control percentage of electric motor assist.

Maybe the HV failure rates are much lower because HV gas burner engine isn't as tasked or loaded at certain times when failure occurs. The percentages from failures for HV to GAS is much lower. Why are the GAS burners failing at a higher percentage than the HVs.

 

Some folks like arguing with strangers on the internet...never made much sense to me but to each their own.

I'm not going to drag the guy but if you look through @TRDoffroadPRO posting history, you will find the guy gets into spats with folks in almost every thread he posts on and the facts he throws out there are usually proven to be false.

 

They just did this with the Lexus LX 700h. The more you know.

The Tundra HV is produced at MUCH lower volume than the Tundra. That's why. It's purely about numbers.

 

that isn't true. The most I get into spats about is misinformation or wrong information. Everyone is able to make their own choices as far as floor mats, lighting, and accessory choices they make.

 

This is the exception then.

You are clearly in the wrong and continue to speak as if you aren't.

 

Oh okay, only partially wrong then. It may use a 12-volt starter but it is tied into the HV system, and the truck will not run without the HV system working.