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2024 TRDPro hybrid - Spun bearing

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by TundraP226, Apr 15, 2025.

  1. Apr 19, 2025 at 3:57 PM
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    Coal Dragger

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    If 3rd party will pay for repairs get it repaired.

    Then trade it off on something else. Unfortunately the V35A-FTS doesn’t have a record of consistent reliability, dependability, or quality.

    Avoid all the new 1/2 tons on the market. Either buy a midsize if you don’t need a 1/2 ton since they all seem to be OK. The T24A-FTS seems to be pretty issue free in al of the applications it sees for example. If you need a full size buy a 3/4 ton of your choice, at least you know what to expect with a diesel and the gas V8’s in those are pretty damn reliable since they don’t bother with cylinder deactivation nonsense.
     
  2. Apr 19, 2025 at 6:15 PM
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    I feel for the OP. And to continue seeing these stories, literally makes me nervous. I'm a loyal Toyota customer because of their reputation of quality and reliability. I have literally let out a chuckle while sitting in the finance managers office while finalizing my last 5 new Toyota vehicles, when they've tried to sell me extended warranties. And never experienced a notable issue in the many, many hundreds of thousands of miles I've driven them for. That's what helped push me to a 3rd gen, non-proven platform, over finding a clean low mile used 2.5 gen Tundra when I was shopping last year.
    My build date is 1/24 hybrid because the wife and I were planning on buying a small toy hauler. I of course didn't buy an extended warranty. I have 34,700 miles on my Tundra, and in 11 days I'll have owned it for 1 year.
    My question is, would you buy the extended now before it hits 36k? Or role the dice? I perform all my own minor maintenance, and unlike the OP, I changed my oil for the first time at 1,000 miles, and its been changed at every 5k mile increment since.
    I got a quote from Troy D. (from this forum) last Aug for a 6 yr/125k mile warranty for $1,250. This is Toyota Extra Care, Platinum coverage. I'm sure its gone up a few bucks since, but what are y'alls thoughts? Buy it or roll the dice?

    Thanks for your input.
     
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  3. Apr 19, 2025 at 6:20 PM
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    buy warranty jmo
     
  4. Apr 19, 2025 at 6:36 PM
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    Buy it
     
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  5. Apr 19, 2025 at 7:48 PM
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    I’d definitely buy the extended warranty for peace of mind.
     
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  6. Apr 19, 2025 at 8:57 PM
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    I'm guessing you don't know about the massive 100k+ motor recall that is only for 2022-2023, even though 24/25 all have similar issues.

    Don't want to have the engine go out, potentially having newborn in a car seat with me at the time isn't something I want to experience and if possible I gladly took myself out of this exact scenario by moving on from my 56k tundra where dealers would only low-ball me 33-39k for a 12k mile truck due to this engine issue.

    My family and I have been yota fans since the 80s, this 22 was supposed to be a forever truck and handed down to family.

    So yea when yota said the new engine was 12k miles/12months warranty only, and still seeing 24/25 blow up when they supposedly fixed it in 23, leaves a pretty easy decision for me
     
  7. Apr 20, 2025 at 3:23 AM
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    What did you replace your Tundra with?
     
  8. Apr 21, 2025 at 4:39 AM
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    100%. Insurance tries to pay as little as possible and always haggle on the labor rates.

    For example our customer labor rate is $194 and warranty is $161.67

    And i will just leave this here. Long block from Toyota at warranty cost is $10,686.57 and with all clamps and coolant and gaskets needed for the recall the total parts come in at $11,230.07 and Technicians get 20.4 hours for the R&R
     
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  9. Apr 21, 2025 at 6:01 AM
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    While youre at it, ask the GSM for a group discount
     
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  10. Apr 21, 2025 at 7:21 AM
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    However, I don’t know how Toyota does it, but recall part #’s are ALWAYS cheaper than using the factory part #’s. As an example the recent fuel pump recall the pumps are ~$160….but if you use the parts catalog and use the factory part #, that same fuel pump is now ~$400
     
  11. Apr 21, 2025 at 7:35 AM
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    True, but one thing not mentioned is that dealerships can (and do) charge book hours for warranty repairs, despite how long it actually takes. In the non-warranty, cash pay situation, they can only technically charge hours worked.....
     
  12. Apr 21, 2025 at 11:17 AM
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    My guys are on flat rate with cash. So a 4 cylinder waterpump will pay them 3 hours whether it took 1 or 5.

    Warranty most of the time pays less then book. Here in IL the techs got a nice little bump because they passed a law to pay 50% on top of warranty. So where a 1 hour recall per say will pay them 1.5

    Technically they can but if we get shopped and its off by a lot it does not look too good and you lose out on your client base, so we stick to the labor guide. I like to think I'm at one of the good dealerships.
     
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  13. Apr 21, 2025 at 11:18 AM
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    Yes because Toyota corporate will not pay anything over retail on warranty work and customer pay the parts guys are scummy most of the time and put markups on all parts.

    Just like with the free oil changes for the 2 you get under 2 years warranty pays like $25 for parts on a 4 cylinder and a customer pays $60.34
     
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  14. Apr 21, 2025 at 12:41 PM
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    I do believe that you could potentially get a short block replaced as customer pay for under $10k or darn close. When we did the first few warranty short blocks under warranty, yes they were costing about $30k. A new short block is now only around $3k to $3500. So throw in gaskets, sealants, and fluid. Our labor rate is currently $189. At 30 hours of labor it would put you at $5670 plus parts. I can see it being pretty close to that $10k but not much more than that. I did not quote the short block through my parts department but the cost is usually pretty close to what's offered online. Anyways here's what I saw:

    11400-F4020 - Short Block 2022-2024 Toyota | Longo Toyota Parts
     
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  15. Apr 21, 2025 at 1:06 PM
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    So the plan is to reuse heads and turbos that had stripper glitter oil go through them and hope they last?
     
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    That part number has been superseded.

    11410-F9160
     
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    Someone could price out the turbos. IIRC, there was a post awhile back that had them listed for $3300 each for the parts alone.
     
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    $4,532.15 and $4,188.40
     
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    What is the IIRC?
     
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    If I Remember Correctly (IIRC)
     
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    :rofl: Of course, I was thinking, what is this part in this overly technical truck. Thanks
     
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    Generally speaking, stripper glitter oil shouldn’t go to the heads and turbos if the oil filter isn’t bypassed. It goes to the oil pan then the filter.
     
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    As with any other kind of filter, oil filter does not catch everything.
     
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    Someone that understands that oil flow diagram better than I do might be able to say for sure - but Toyota felt it necessary to replace "everything oil touched" when doing warranty short block rebuilds. Seems that would indicate some contamination risk but :notsure:
     
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  25. Apr 22, 2025 at 4:19 AM
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    This^^ 100% correct. The short block warranty replacements were stupid expensive

    I can't do a screen shot for customer privacy reasons but we did one back in October of 24 and parts were $26173.64 and labor came in at $8407.20 for a grand total of $34580.84

    This was on a 23 TRO PRO with 32984 miles on the clock. Was not under recall so Toyota did short block with every part that oil touched getting replaced
     
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  26. Apr 22, 2025 at 5:48 AM
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    Thanks for the correction. Still seems to be around the same price.
     
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    this is my fear. not on recall, so only get 2nd class repair. and can happen past 60k mile warranty and get screwed
     
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    The risk of a $30K+ out of warranty repair and huge downtime are 100% why I don’t have two 3rd gens right this minute. IMO, if Toyota was that confident about the motor and their most recent “fix”, they’d extend the powertrain to 10 years 125K for all 2022-2025 trucks and give at least an additional 5 year / 60K mile engine warranty on long block and short block replacements to current owners. Make these “good will”warranties transferable and you might start to see resale value on the 3G bump back up some and I’d be comfortable buying a new 3G. IMO, a 12K mile 12 month warranty speaks volumes about Toyota’s confidence in this motor.

    *Cue the Toyota PR machine!*

    incoming rants: how wrong I am to state that a manufacturer shouldn’t replace a defective motor in a $70K truck that they sold with a 5 year / 60K mile powertrain warranty with a “trust me dude, it’s seriously really probably most likely fixed now” motor that comes with a 12 month / 12,000 mile aftermarket parts and labor warranty on the entire long block.
     
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