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Ram bringing back 5.7 hemi

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by ansel123, Mar 24, 2025.

  1. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:27 AM
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    Vote is how EPA happened. People around you (and me, I have 3 vehicles with highly inefficient internal combustion engines and a bunch of gas-powered garden tools) voted to breathe a clean air.
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    this.

    EPA made a law.

    We didn't decide..."they" did.

    and it costs us untold monies to comply.

    for what?

    I remember a news story about how clean burning the F150 v8 was. it was staggeringly clean.

    but we are told it's not.




    NYC?.... no comment.
     
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  3. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:28 AM
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    thats fine, disagree all you want, thats what makes us great

    but, Ill tell you from someone on the front lines, perhaps you should just trust me, we need some regulation for contaminants. The average person doesn't understand (not saying you or insulting anyone) exposure risk and exposure pathway evaluation for each type of contaminant.

    anyways, rock on, Ill keep cleaning up the mess as others make it :burp:
     
  4. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:29 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    we voted on EPA mileage standards?


    or did we defer to the agency?
     
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    I wonder who in the EPA or CARB was elected tho? I don’t remember voting. Not to say I want corporate greed to drive environmental policy, but there’s probably a better state-by-state solution out there. The grass lands of Kansas don’t need the same emissions standards as NYC or LA IMO.
     
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    and Ill keep my cheese not sticking to my cheeseburger wrappers :yay:
     
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  7. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:31 AM
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    Thanks for doing that. I live in a nice place that happened to be in EPA's Superfund program. Kids dying of cancer is no joke, just because of one ignorant fscker who decided to run his company cheaper. The cleaning effort sort of finished, but you can't still swim in local river nor eat fish.
     
  8. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:32 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    not hating on the clean air part.

    just let us decide.


    and, this is a planet. I reckon we are the only folks participating in "cleaning" the air. to our financial demise.

    those shitholes, that were mentioned earlier, still exist and are getting much worse.

    the V8's are not the culprit.
     
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  9. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:33 AM
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    You want a direct democracy? Move to Switzerland. Here in US we elect representatives and they make laws for us (instead of us). In past we elected representatives who decided we need EPA. This is how it works in this country.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:37 AM
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    I get that man, I really do, but "US" haven't spent years of scientific education, modeling, chemistry, and exposure risk evaluations. This is highly technical stuff that the average person doesn't understand, so at some point, you have to trust the people who do this.

    no offense, but once in a while you have to trust others who are dedicated to this.

    and just for clarification, Im in the private sector not a gov type company, we are all environmental engineers, geologists, hydrogeologists, etc, not tree huggers.

    but again, if everyone voted it down, and it was a free for all, hell, I'd be retired already from the clean ups.
     
  11. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:39 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    no.

    Chevron Deference was shut down.

    we no longer defer to the agency.



    ah...the democracy straw man. Republic....we are a representative republic. move along.



    clean air acts are fine, needed, and welcome. I work in that field.

    climate change related market pressure is not.

    this is the problem.

    my rub...The Gov is telling the market what to do.
     
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  12. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:40 AM
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    no thanks needed VTL, but Ill take it, lol.

    and to be clear , we aren't doing this out of the kindness of our hearts, we are a for profit private sector business, but we do help people who come to us and need it.

    fuel tanks, heavy industrial, dry cleaners, plating facilities, scrapyards, all the way down to home heating oil tanks, and tons of other shit.

    We also monitor a superfund site in the midwest, former lead smelter, lead air dispersion all over the res neighborhoods, shallow soils with really high lead, guess who got exposed to that.
     
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  13. Mar 25, 2025 at 7:42 AM
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    And i dont want companies chemically contaminating my kids so you can drive a v8
     
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    The same EPA that legislated small, highly efficient turbo diesel motors out of existence and pushed Americans towards larger and less efficient gas motors? All the while, 1st world Europe, Nordic countries and places with the cleanest air on the planet used less power refining diesel fuel and less crude oil running their cars and trucks for 3 decades. I’d be fine rolling back emissions standards to pre DEF and pre direct injection. At least the gasoline fluid injection systems see to be on hold for a few years at this point.
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    ugh...this got de-railed.

    the clean air act & whatsuch stuff is not the contention....nor is it the reason we can't have a v8

    That's all good stuff. I can understand your passion for it. All good.


    but, further down the food chain....

    we get TOLD we can't have certain things.

    EX - no diesel rigs/trains in California. why?



    a weird example...GM sells EV's in China to "offset" climate related epa standards. no joke.
     
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    Poor man's limited; Fox 2.0 & 5100s; 285/70 RG
    Yet McDonalds, Dunkin, P&G....
     
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    They declared this was a failed attempt, because NOx and small particulates turned out to be much more bad than COx. Diesels are again bad in Europe. They are not subsidized, people buying new non-electric cars again drive the gasoline-powered cars.
     
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    this ^
     
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    I wonder what the environmental footprint of replacing 110K 3.4TTs is tho… it’s sure not offset by the same MPG.
     
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    lol, funny, but not real serious. :rofl:
     
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    Diesel emissions
    I suppose the US can be the only country not farting in the global auditorium after the big bean eating party.
     
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    Vehicles have to be reliable first. Parts have eco-footprint. Unreliable vehicle that needs to be fixed as soon as it leaves the lot is not doing good for environment. Up to a point the old reliable engine is more eco-friendly than more efficient sophisticated engine. Add leasing to the picture, where you have to replace the vehicle every 2-3 years, and it turns into complete eco-madness. I actually damaged by smelling by rebuilding such sophisticated engine and transmission in poorly ventilated area and abundance of chemicals I had to use. No good reason for twice shorter life expectancy out of basically the same block/cylinder head that it had 10 years before that.

    Same for unreliable appliances. I don't need a new fridge every few years, just because manufacturers want me to. I don't need wifi and AI built-in, I just need kids milk not going sour and my beer cold.
     
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    Wrong. That was congress bypassing the checks and balances by giving the authority of elected officials to unelected bureaucrats. If you aren't able to be voted out then you shouldn't have the power to legislate.
     
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    The county I live in outlawed gas leaf blowers…..

    I wonder what they’re going to do when I am out this spring and summer spraying my pectin to keep the mosquitos at bay….i wear goggles and a respirator while doing it and look like the dude from halo
     
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    make sure you have the right cartridges and do a pos and neg fit test each use.
     
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    I have cartridges and fit it the same way I had to fit our n95/respirators during Covid
     
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    what I was trying to say was, make sure you have the correct cartridge that is rated for the chemical class you are preventing exposure too and do a positive and negative pressure fit test each use.

    you don't want to breathe that shit in.

    but , ya, I have a mosquito service that comes and napalms my entire property, otherwise you cant be outside, HA
     
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    That's what we had for a couple years; the price kept increasing and they kept telling us we had to increase frequency to keep the mosquito population down......we had a very woody backyard that would stay damp for days after a rain. Prime breeding grounds and we would sit on the patio and get eaten alive. I spoke to one of the guys that came out and he was very friendly. He told me the chemical they used and the dilution. I bought the backpack for $300 and have been spraying myself for a few years with great results. The ONLY thing i don't like about it is that it kills (or at least repels) everything......bees, crickets, etc. I used to love sleeping with my windows open and hearing the insects at night. There are no such sounds anymore......I only spray about once a month in the newer house. We have a pool but added the screened porch last fall so may not even need to do it that often this year
     
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