24 Limited Disappointing Cold Weather Issues

I'm glad, too.

 

For the first time and much to my delight the steering wheel was warm, and the center seat sections were barely warm this morning after 10 minutes of remote start. This is a first since owning the truck. The temp this morning on startup was 44 degrees (40 degrees higher than the past week), maybe remote start only feeds a small amount of power into the steering wheel and seats so you simply don't feel anything or does not turn them on in the extreme cold for whatever reason. The other interesting thing that I think is contrary to the suggestions made I had left the truck set at 74 in Auto mode with the AC on. My steering wheel was left on as well as the seats from when I shut it down last night. I think I still have the menu Auto AC function set to off. Unless the dash AC switch set to on overrides the menu setting. Not sure what else I could have done for them to have come on. Hopefully, we won't see the extreme cold we had the past week any time soon but that will be the ultimate test.

 

You know statistics probably say all of that...but my Pops has sure been lucky. He will own nothing but a FORD F150 and he has never had a problem out of any of them. Drives a Platinum now with all the bells whistles and it is really nice. They are even more expensive than Tundras though, but they do have much nicer interiors. I feel Toyotas overall tend to be more reliable and have better resale regardless.

 

I didnt find the interior of the platinum f-150 any better than my tundra platinum.

obviously we are in subjective land here.

 

True, I am talking more in the line of less hard plastic. They both look nice, I think the F150 just has more padded soft surfaces

 

I see, I don't really find that to be the case, the arm rest is soft on the window and center console, etc.

steering wheel is really nice, gets super hot, but alas, everyone has different standards, opinions, etc.

I liked the center console turning into a work desk in the F-150, but I questioned the durability of that shifter folding up all the time.

also the full roll down window in the tundra rules all for me

 

Everybody makes some winners and everybody makes some lemons. Good and bad in every brand. Some just do more of the lemons than others. Doesn't mean they're all bad.

 

Not sure if his has that. His is a several years old, but I know what you are talking about. If he had it he would not use it, as he is retired. I don't think his shifter folds down like that. He has the larger Ecoboost engine I do know that. The seat massage is the chit though! It sure is nice after a day in the field to come back to heated massage.

 

This is so true when comparing the massive volume of other brands compared to the Tundra. When you are putting out millions you will have a few with issues. Just natural. I had issues with nearly all my early Ford Powerstrokes, two were bought back. Switching to the Duramax and then the 6.2 has been nearly flawless. I expect the Tundra to last a long time at least for the second or third owners. However, I do wonder how long the turbos last compared to the indestructible 5.7. My neighbor's older F150 with about 135,000 just had new Turbos put on. Coming from turbo diesels I am very aware of the care needed. Extended warm-up before towing and/or full boost, heat soak when towing heavy, and allowing them to cool before shutting down.

 

should be better than the EB, the tundra has a more robust cooling system.

 

Disappointed with the 2025 Toyota Tundra

I recently test-drove two 2025 Tundras—a CrewMax Limited Hybrid and, a few days later, a CrewMax Limited gas. For context, I currently own a 2015 Tundra 1794 and previously had a 2008 TRD, so I’m very familiar with Toyota trucks. Unfortunately, the new Tundra was a huge disappointment.

1. Visibility Issues – As a tall driver, I keep my seat all the way back and at a mid-high position. In both test drives, I felt like I was looking through a narrow slit—the headliner dips near the windshield, limiting visibility. This makes it difficult to see the sky and overhead traffic lights, something that was never an issue in my 2015. I even double-checked with a tape measure, and the difference is real.
   
   
2. Reduced Rear Legroom – With the front seat fully back, rear legroom felt noticeably smaller than in my 2015. My knees touched the front seat, and my son, who was in the back, had his feet pressed against it. The specs claim only about a ¾-inch reduction, but in reality, it feels much worse.
   
   
3. Cold Flooring & Poor Insulation – Both test drives were in cold weather (15–20°F), and I noticed my feet getting cold quickly. The floor and doghouse seem to have less insulation compared to my 2015, with the carpet feeling noticeably colder to the touch. My son also commented on how cold his feet were.
   
   
4. Hesitation in the Non-Hybrid Model – The gas-only Tundra had noticeable hesitation during hard acceleration, while the hybrid version did not stand out to me as an issue.
   
   
5. Subpar Driver Assistance Features – My wife drives a 2022 Sienna with Toyota’s radar cruise control and lane-keeping features, which work far better than in the Tundra. The Tundra often failed to recognize vehicles ahead, requiring manual braking. Lane centering either doesn’t exist or is poorly implemented, only nudging the vehicle back after crossing into another lane. By contrast, the Sienna actively helps keep you centered.
   

Overall, I’m completely turned off by the new Tundra. As a longtime Toyota owner (two Tundras, three Siennas), I expected better. The final nail in the coffin? I test-drove a 2025 F-150 Lariat afterward and was thoroughly impressed—it’s a much better truck in every way. Will not comment on reliability.

 

Enjoy your f-150 thanks for stopping by

 

Thank God he didn't comment on reliability.....

 

OMG really? LOL

 

never had any heating issues in our 23 tundra platinum during the last 2 winters in ND.

actually it heats up faster than our 2018 tundra platinum. and the tundra sits outside in the driveway 24/7/365.

wife never complained about lack of heat in any location inside. but she does remote start it twice before going to work at 7am M-F. and it shows in her per tank mpg avg, which you can see in my fuelly link in my sig. she avg between 7-9 mpg a tank during those brutal cold snaps.

and we had some good week long brutal temps this year. this is pulled from my weather station in the backyard

Code:

Date          High      Avg       Low
2/1/2025      30.1 °F   20.1 °F    9.1 °F
2/2/2025      19.1 °F    4.0 °F   -3.5 °F
2/3/2025      -3.0 °F   -6.9 °F  -13.5 °F
2/4/2025       4.0 °F   -4.8 °F  -15.3 °F
2/5/2025      11.2 °F    6.4 °F    0.7 °F
2/6/2025      11.0 °F    0.8 °F   -6.9 °F
2/7/2025      14.5 °F    5.8 °F   -2.3 °F
2/8/2025      15.6 °F    3.8 °F   -6.4 °F
2/9/2025      13.7 °F    2.0 °F   -5.4 °F
2/10/2025      1.5 °F   -9.1 °F  -15.4 °F
2/11/2025      7.0 °F   -7.8 °F  -17.1 °F
2/12/2025      6.3 °F   -8.9 °F  -18.3 °F
2/13/2025     12.0 °F   -3.3 °F  -16.7 °F
2/14/2025      3.9 °F   -4.1 °F  -11.2 °F
2/15/2025      5.7 °F   -2.8 °F   -7.0 °F
2/16/2025     -2.8 °F  -10.4 °F  -22.9 °F
2/17/2025     -3.7 °F  -20.6 °F  -30.1 °F
2/18/2025      2.6 °F  -19.4 °F  -35.1 °F
2/19/2025      5.8 °F  -12.7 °F  -27.6 °F
2/20/2025     12.2 °F   -2.5 °F  -18.4 °F

 

... and this is your FIRST post on this forum? C'mon... where have you been?

 

He is right about the windshield. I was surprised how much lower the windshield was compared to my 2018 Tundra. Does make tough seeing traffic lights and I am not tall (5’ 10”).

 

I've never understood the mentality:
"I think I'll go on an enthusiast forum and complain about my new truck because I didn't research it well enough before buying it, and now I'm pissed at the truck."
(And probably just make one post and leave.)

This is called a YOU problem.

 

I'm not feeling this and I'm 6'1"....
But to be fair, I didn't come from a truck immediately prior, but a sedan.

 

I actually like the smaller windshield, I'm 6'2" & have no trouble with it. Seems most cars & trucks these days have monster windshields that let all the sun & heat in.

 

ya, me to, Im a little taller but I have no trouble seeing, not sure what people are even talking about with that.

it just takes some getting used to, but I like it more now. When you come from the Gen 2 right into it, it is a different feeling at first.

 

Nope, will stick with my 1794 for now.

 

The truck inside was not cold, feet were. On both test drives, heater set to auto. The cold was clearly coming form the floor not being warm. perhaps they changed insulation on the 2025.

 

I test drove two trucks, not bough it. I have the 1974 and loving it!

 

Considering the rudeness of some members, I do not think I was missing much by not posting.

 

dont use auto, thats your main problem

 

My apologies then. I mistook you for the OP on this thread.
I'm glad you like your 2015, but it sounds like the 3rd gen Tundra is definitely not for you.
I will agree with you on your point #5. I have disabled or worked around most of the electronic "nannies" on my truck as I find most of them to be poorly implemented and annoying.
Should anyone have to do that? No, but there we are.
Yours is the first mention I've heard of the cold floor issue. As several others living in cold climates have mentioned in this thread, they have no problems with cold feet or not enough heat in general, so your experience is an outlier. Your other points are valid, but subjective, and don't apply to all users, nor do all 3rd gens have "all the problems." Mine does not hesitate on acceleration for example.

 

You should try to understand the features on a truck before you comment/bash on them. Toyota's Lane Tracing Assist System has 2 different features with different purposes. What you described is called Lane Departure. It simply alerts you when you begin to drift out of your lane, it will also automatically assist in steering the truck back into the lane.

Lane Centering is a different feature. It requires the adaptive cruise to be on, and it's suppose to automatically keep the truck centered in the lane.

Having said that, I've found Lane Centering to be poorly implemented on the Gen 3 Tundras. I've traveled cross country 4 times and I still haven't found a stretch of highway where it doesn't ping pong side to side in a noticeable and annoying fashion. It's not a big deal to me because I don't mind steering the truck myself, but it would be nice if it functioned like it should.

 

and we have a 2023 AWD 25th anniversary Sienna.

they do not work better in that vehicle, it doesn't even have lane center..