For those that carry: is capacity a major factor in what you carry?

^ I’ve also carried a 5 shot J frame revolver. I’d throw a speed loader in my pocket if I was going somewhere questionable.

Lately carry a sig P365.

 

The wife and I each carry one of these. That gives us 10 shots between the two. .38 special.
J frame, very compact for concealed carry. Always extra rounds in the truck. Obviously we'd have to get to it.

 

Couldn't the same be said for anything used in defense?

 

yes.
which is why open carry makes me cringe.

I have yet to see an open carry with level 1 or level 2 retention.

 

I've read that about gel....can be scraped off the offender's face and thrown at you.

I think the local jail uses gel to cut down on diffusion issues.

*You spray fog/cone or stream and everyone is leaving that room/building. Heard a bailiff deployed it in a local courtroom and when the HVAC system got hold of it, the entire building had to evac. LOL (I'd love to have seen that one).

I keep a few extra rounds in the truck/car but I'm too lazy to run back to the car. Reloads go in a pouch on my belt.

I have carried in a Safariland Level 2 ALS holster (was it Level 1? Had that neat thumb-operated lever to unlock the weapon). However it sits so high on my belt I literally have to lean over to my left to clear the muzzle on the draw. Worked better as a crossdraw.

Most open carry I see is in an Uncle Mike's one-size-fits-all holster or a thigh holster for 1911's. Most open carry I do is in a Mitch Rosen thumbreak.

Next summer hope to have an Andrews Leather McDaniel II crossdraw with thumbreak, I paid for it last spring, should be done by then! LOL A crossdraw overcomes me having to lean over to draw, allowing me to carry a full-sized tool. Crossdraw will be a slower draw but should allow me to protect it easer from a snatch attack.

I like open carry in summer when I am working. Going out on the town though, I generally conceal carry. Winter? Conceal carry.

 

Public school teacher here and I have these goodies with me everyday:



The bolt cutters are large due to their ability to be used as a weapon and the size of lock & chain outside the nearest exit of my room. The kiddos and staff have asked me numerous times if I'm going home when they see me in the hall wearing the backpack. I just say no and that all of my stuff needed to work with students is in the pack (which it is).

 

I kept my items in a backpack when I was a public warden (school teacher).

Good on you for carrying the pepper spray. In a normal and sensible world, every teacher would have the right to carry a pistol and the principal would be required to be armed.

 

As long as proper training in the use of a firearm is required along with a yearly qualification.

 

I get that but if they have that in their face and are able to pull off that maneuver, your probably in alot of trouble anyway.

Wind is probably way more likely to be a problem versus a ninja skilled mugger who is immune to spray and has amazing accuracy.

 

Nah. It is my belief most people that need the "hot sauce" have been sprayed with it before, i.e. they have been arrested before. They have done time and thus, have experience.

I have been told just the act of having pepper spray on one's person, looks good to a grand jury. It shows the self defender wants a less lethal option.

I told the wife, as I tell anyone I talk with about pepper spray, "be mindful of the wind, you may need to reposition to make the wind work for you as the situation develops."

Question for the LEO's on this forum: during an escalating encounter....if the victim moves to one side or the other, will the aggressor tend to move also to maintain a face-to-face orientation?

 

I used to work in a regional jail, and I remember at least 2 inmates who could shrug off the pepper spray the CO's used. Both were really stupid, like a few IQ points above disabled level, but mean as hell and the spray had almost no effect on them. I'm not saying its ineffective, 99.9% of people are totally messed up by it, but they are out there.

 

I always thought it would be cool to be running a course with live ammo, have moving contact targets with something non-lethal shooting back at you from a different position at times to throw you off. I'm sure that would be stupid expensive robotics and God forbid it a round damaged the guns or targeting system

I saw a documentary about this.....it was called "Starship Troopers" and it was the conclusion to advanced infantry training at the beginning of the movie. Trooper got zapped, Squad Leader Rico took off a trooper's helmet to adjust it, another trooper got zapped, shot the first trooper in the head. Rico nearly quit over it.

Active Self Protection of Youtube fame calls the effect of being shot at "FIBSA Factor" for "Fudge! I'm Being Shot At" and how people tend to duck, dodge, hide, run off, etc. when the other party shoots in their general direction.

I've been told those dye rounds for Force-on-Force are the best for training but the last admin. banned those for non king's men.

 

I've read the percentage of the population not affected by pepper spray to be 10%.

You spray that guy----the two prisoners you mentioned above---you better be ready to shoot him because if he was going to mess you up before, he's really going to kill you now. You touched him/resisted him and you don't get to do that! He does that to you, you don't do that to him.

 

Go play paintball. You'll realize real quick how you're not nearly as awesome as you think you are, haha. And you'll have lots of fun, too.

 

I've played before. It was a lot of fun.

I most enjoy the hits on my kunckles.....LOL

 

Hahaha, yeah. There's definitely spots that hurt more than others.

 

I carry a can of bear spray in the back flap of the front passenger seat in case I run across any protesters blocking my way. That counts as pepper spray doesn't it? Unfortunately I never run across any protesters. You can't bring out the guns on idiots that have their hands glued to the road.

 

That's why. It just looks weird. I know of 'cocked and locked' but all of my pistols are double-action, single-action so no need to ever cock them. For those that aren't familiar with them, with DA/SA there is no need to mess with a safety. Just keep the weapon chambered with a round. First pull on the trigger (around 15# pull force) cocks and fires it. Subsequent pulls are semi auto with about 7# pull force. It has a de-cocker if you don't want to empty the magazine. I have never owned a pistol with a safety. DA/SA pistols are just as safe with a slightly better reaction time depending on how you shoot. Even my snub nose S&W 38 spcl is pre-safety. But I don't carry that. If I carried that weapon I would get S&W to retro fit it with a safety.

 

Hahaha, yeah, until you get hit you never know.

That frozen paintball stuff is just messed up.

I've never tried airsoft.

Sh't, it's been probably been 25 years or so since I played paintball.

 

which is exactly why i keep my fists in my pockets

 

Hahaha

 

I am not sure I'd use something marked for a large animal like bears on people.....what is the MC (major capsaicinoid) percent on your bear spray?

I have a large, think "riot police" sized can of Fox Labs' "5 point 3" fogger can. It's MC is 2 percent and it's marked for people......

I haven't practiced with it, something I need to do, I bought it for the same reason the member above bought his bear spray.