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2020 Towing

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by OldAmerican, Jan 15, 2025.

  1. Jan 15, 2025 at 5:01 PM
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    Was looking at a 2020 Limited Crewmax to replace my 2010 and the ad said it only has a towing capacity of 8800. What happened? My 2010 with the same engine is rated at 10,100.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2025 at 5:27 PM
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    Different configurations and options. The luxury items come at a cost.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2025 at 5:32 PM
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    Also is the 2010 2WD and the 2020 4WD? Adding 4WD knocks off a sizable chunk of the max towing rating
     
  4. Jan 15, 2025 at 5:40 PM
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    That's a heavy cost. Yeah, my 2010 is the SR5 and the 2020 is a limited TRD. Still, that is a huge hit.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2025 at 5:41 PM
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    Both 4x4's.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2025 at 6:56 PM
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    They both have the same tow rating to start with. Then you subtract for configuration. If you bought an apples to apples 2020 to your 2010, it would have the same rating. My 2019 limited Crewmax 4wd had 1130# payload and 8800# towing I believe.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:05 AM
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    I guess that makes sense. Just find it hard to believe that making it a Limited reduces your towing by 1300#. Has the same drivetrain. :(
     
  8. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:13 AM
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    It’s not about drivetrain. It’s about max weight for the axles and frame if I remember. Adding more curb weight will reduce payload and tow rating.
     
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  9. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:31 AM
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    Seems like a heavy price to pay for a nicer interior and a few bells and whistles. Must make that stuff out of lead!! May have to limit my search to the base SR5 if I want to maintain my ability to tow my 10,000# car-hauler trailer. Had hoped to pick up a few creature comforts like my Limited Highlander.
     
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  10. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:43 AM
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    I bet if you looked it up by model and trim, even a crewmax SR5 doesn’t get at 10k# tow rating. The max towing is usually the least equipped, smallest cab, 2wd configuration.
     
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  11. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:44 AM
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    No transmission cooler on the '20 either.
     
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  12. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:48 AM
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    What’s your current trucks cab, trim level, and drivetrain? Are you sure your current truck really has the 10k# tow rating?
     
  13. Jan 16, 2025 at 4:54 AM
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    SAE J2807 is what happened.

    Vehicle manufacturers had to start following towing standards and ratings.

    https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j2807_202002/
     
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    Hard to find reliable data out there it seems. Different sites have different numbers. For the past 14 years I have lived under the impression that my 2010 had a 10,100# capacity. Have to dig out my owners manual again.
     
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    You know well that your truck has 10k# towing capability. But it’s probably not rated for it. The new one will be the same. If I had to frequently tow 10k pounds, I would be stepping up to a 3/4 ton chassis.
     
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    That explains a lot. Count on the government to be involved in some way. Guess standardizing that kind of thing is a good thing but I seldom find anything the government does as helpful.
     
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    My manual says my '08 4x4 has 10,200. The 2wd version is 10600.

    I haven't checked my ''21 to see what it's rated at.
     
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    That can't be a good idea. :(
     
  19. Jan 16, 2025 at 5:18 AM
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    I believe GM is the one that started the standard, but the last to adopt. Toyota was the first to follow this standard.

    Like you, in 2013 I purchased my 2012 CM Tundra and was expecting 10k lbs tow rating. Nope. 9k.

    That's all right though, 9k behind my CM in CO would put a smackdown on it. Pretty sure I had a dent under the gas pedal. There is no way in hell my Tundras could have kept up with 10k behind it.
     
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    Fortunately, I don't do a lot of heavy towing. But I do have a 10K rated enclosed car hauler that should the need arise I want to be able to tow it. That said, when we moved from Ohio to Virginia, I had that trailer loaded to the gills and over the mountains we came! I have an equalizer hitch so it towed fine. It did have to downshift a lot and I watched the gas gauge drop like a rock but it got us here no problems.

    As for a 3/4 ton rig, should Toyota ever make such a thing I would look into it. Haven't seen a reliable USA brand for a long time.
     
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    I wouldn’t hold your breath. I don’t think Toyota wants to deal with US emissions standards. Plus the big 3 have a pretty strong market hold on HD trucks. Probably not worth the R&D from Toyota
     
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    The towing capacity is irrelevant as most of us run out of payload capacity first. The configurations make a difference on payload capacity.
     
  23. Jan 16, 2025 at 5:23 PM
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    Roger that. Hate to think how many times I have gone to the aggregate yard and asked for #1000 of something and when I run across the scales had considerably more.
     
  24. Jan 16, 2025 at 5:25 PM
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    I have heard rumors about a diesel from Toyota but like you said, probably never see it here. Just wish the big three could figure out how to make a reliable product.
     
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