2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

I feel like changing mytag info to say "Is Your Truck Able to Make a Coffee For You" ?
A coffee would be nice. My minimum requirement though; I carry a 30 amp cord in my truck, that I plug into two locations each with a Firman Generator. I want to be able to plug that into my truck.

yes I got that from the videos I watched. At first I couldnt believe they were so many videos, but this Pro Power really is a game changer and its been out a few years so I am behind.
I am not going to plug the truck into my house breaker panel. At least initially I wouldn't. lol
I just want to duplicate the octopus lines coming into the house from the generator. So have them coming from a running truck instead. You know - the set up where the wife shakes her head at all the extension cords running all over the house. Never worry about stale gas or changing generator oil again.

yes I got that - was just making a note. The 3 people I know that own RAMS all newer ones are all kinda the same. They are business people, not contractors , and they write off their trucks. They would never own a truck outright. They all lease their RAMS - I asked why a RAM and they all said because it has the best interior and the best ride. Just saying.

 

Who wants to power their house off of a Power Boost quarter ton pick up?

You could be like me and live on the end of a dedicated circuit which just happens to feed a storm shelter/ middle school which our power has only ever really gone out one time. It was less than 10 hours since schools are a priority in restoration of power service.

The batteries Toyota choose to use are for longevity of the system. They are a proven method that Toyota has used in the past for its hybrid systems. The Hybrid Toyota system is for towing and low-end torque. Good for you power boost F150 owners powering your coffee makers and houses. See how well it does after 50-60 thousand miles much less 100-200k. Ford really should focus on quality for they surely don't have much of it.

 

We lose power enough that I bought a backup generator. Ironic since there's a nuclear power station just across the lake, but then the grid is not optimally laid out. Hard to understand your argument against added usefulness of a feature simply because your truck of choice doesn't offer it.... But I'll let you know when I hit 60k, so far no metal shavings in my oil passages causing me to need a replacement engine but I'm only at 30k so knock on wood.

 

I liked Fords system so much I was really close to buying one.

I would love that backup for wherever Im at, like the fishing camp I go to, power goes out a lot, and I could just plug in their well and run the fridge, etc.

and most important, my CPAP, but I have other back-ups for that

Toyota needs to add this to the hybrid and also do better than 400 for us non hybrids.

my wife's Sienna has a larger system then the tundra, you can run a crock pot , vacuum, etc off it. WE cooked some little smokeys bacon sausage things one time on the way to a gathering, lol, worked awesome.

 

You'll like this one, I forgot to charge my 36V trolling motor battery one time before a beach trip, remembered right before we left. I ziptied a drop cord between the truck and trailer/boat and had a full battery by the 3.5 hours it took to get to the beach. Maybe not the safest or least redneck thing I've ever done but it was super handy.

 

ya, totally man, its a great idea and so is not losing your under-seat storage to have a hybrid either

toyota system was a no go for me, $3,400 for what a little more torque and loss of storage, no thanks

 

The Hybrid is really not much of an advantage for the Tundra. Especially with gas prices headed south ward. I have almost 24k miles on my truck at the moment and have had 0 problems with it.

The metal shavings deal has only affected the 22s and early 23s, luckily. I do not think many if any are after the retool of the black suppliers in Jan-Feb 2023.

 

Everyone who has property "in" Terrain like this.
A narrow corridor is cut by Hydro. Power Lines are snaked in to the properties. The neighboring trees and growth overtake the corridor - it disappears within a few years. In 30 years I have had 1/2 dozen lines come down due to old trunks/branches breaking taking out lines - Hydro comes and reconnects to the property. I have also had a tree take out a private hydro pole on my property. Cost $2800 15 years ago, who knows the cost today to replace, and then hydro come and run in a new line.
There are two known facts/rules.
1) Don't go for a walk on the trails when its really windy.
2) Any warnings of Wind, Ice, Heavy Wet Snow - pretty good chance you will get a text message from Hydro describing a power outage.
I guess you meant 1/2 ton.

I recently picked up a Tri Fuel Generator. NG, LP and Gasoline.
Can I call my truck a Powerboost if I keep it in the bed?

 

Hybrids looking to become the big thing in this segment. Have to imagine Chebbie will need to follow suit soon with their take.
Maybe they're waiting to see the Ram before they do their own workup.

Chevy actually already been there/done that years ago. Don't know enough about their old Silverado/Tahoe hybrid tech to understand what it's shortcomings or reliability issues may have been. If I were the last competitor waiting to dip a toe back in I'd probably be trying to figure out how to do it as simply as possible.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63229646/2025-ram-1500-ramcharger-launching-before-ev/

 

Natural Gas is available would be the way to go in that situation. A Generac or the like, I have a hard time believing the F150 Power Boost being able to generate enough KwH to power a whole house.

 

What are you powering? To me a fridge and a furnace are about the only things needed to survive, ford should handle that with ease.

 

Very simple to do load calcs to answer that question. I power my 4000' house with a 7000 peak watt generator using load shedding.

 

As long as you can keep the hot tub going, it's all good.

 

No it's not quite like a stand alone hard wired backup setup or huge portable that handles literally everything without load shedding. I'm not running my furnace and hot water and powering everything else at normal levels. Probably if I'm leaving my HVAC off in favor of 1-2 portable units and don't need a hot shower it'll run everything else. Most nights my family sits in one room with a couple lamps on watching cable and charging a few devices. Then we go to bed, it's the fridge, a couple alarm clocks. If I need both hot water and HVAC that probably gets dicey. Gotta make choices. If I run HVAc or hot water heater through a transfer switch I really start to have to know my loads.

But standard recreational power use plus kitchen fridge and garage deep freezer, and maybe 1-2 portable heater/window AC units should be well within the truck's limits if I want a "set it and forget it" setup on 7200 watts.

It is a convenient setup and nice compromise when your outages are infrequent and last a few hours tops and you lack the space or desire to store/maintain another piece of equipment.

Most households don't use 9k watts of power 24/7. They continuously use a small amount then get surges from HVAC, hot water heater or a fridge that bite off a bigger chunk. Easy to manage if you have to.

 

The F150 is a great truck, no one is questing it as it is Ford's flagship. After 2 Explorers that were less than quality and the fact that I have owned 3-4 F150s and very familiar with them. Ford quality is very questionable, they do not and would not replace motors like Toyota is doing. The Tundra is a great truck as well, regardless of the piling on that happened after its release.

Mine will be paid off in a few years, and I am happy to not have to have a truck payment any longer. After that time, I may be able to finally order that 911 Turbo I have always wanted in a special color combination unique to what I want. I haven't had to think about teh Tundra it has been flawless while the Gen 1 Raptor I had needed a blend door motor replaced, a new plastic frame sunroof installed, and not to mention various other little things which went wrong with it. The Gen 2 Raptor I owned the rear defroster on the driver's side stopped working. The cam phasers rattled, and it just had some little things as well and this started at 20k miles.

After having to deal with these quality issues, that my 16 Subaru STI never has, neither does the wife's 40 mpg CRV hybrid or the Tundra never experienced. YMMV, but for me Ford was a headache I did not want to deal with any longer.

 

I know you're joking but two days after I installed my generator interlock we lost power for 24 hours on Christmas Eve in 5 degree weather (very unusual temp for NC). Generator paid for itself on day one by allowing my pool equipment (nat gas heater) to operate in freeze protection mode. It was so cold my neighbors pipes burst in their crawlspace and they had to move out for a week.

 

Yep been rehashed many times here, I have been honest about initial QC issues with my Powerboost. I have an extendes warranty to 2030. She'll have to turn a new leaf and be flawless out to then for me to consider holding her a year or two beyond that.

 

That's what I've done with my PowerBoost. I only have the 2.4kw system, but I've used it in a power outage for the fridge, some lights, wireless router/cable modem, and the pellet stove. My well pump is 120v and on its own circuit, so I should rig up a way to power that then I'd really be set. I could do the same with the boiler, but the pellet stove is enough to get us through - just might not be super toasty if it's single digits outside. In a pinch, it works great and it's so much quieter than a normal generator. We're relatively rural, but pretty close to the main state road running through town so we don't lost power often or for a long time.

 

I am not an electrician and I am not recommending this. But I heard it from my Electrician. I have 240v well pumps at both my house and the cottage. Have not done this yet.
You could cut the power to the well pump. Cut the 120v well power cord closest to the entry point for where the generator cord would be fed in. On the cut 120v cord put a female plug on one end and male plug on the other end. Connect them together for normal operation. When you lose power, hit the main breaker for the well (so no power to the well when power comes back), disconnect the female/male plugs and connect the generator cord to the plug going to the well.

 

I think you might mean.... "Cut the 240v well power cord" ..... "On the cut 240v cord put a 240v female plug on one end and 240v male plug" etc etc...

This assumes that your generator has a 240v output. I don't think a 240v well pump can run on 120v. It would fry the pump motor.

 

Yes for my well pump which is 240v output and my Generator does 240v. on NG - Propane and Gas.
But the comment I quoted from @js312 - he says his well output is 120v - so I was referring to that. The Generator would be set at 120v for his application.

 

Thanks, I stand corrected.

 

Yup, I have a shallow well with a jet pump and it's just 1/2 HP 120v. I thought about doing exactly that and creating a male end for the pump to connect to.

The only reason I haven't is the cable from the panel to the junction box is all old BX stuff that the coating tends to go bad on when you handle the wires and it's probably close to a 100 ft run and copper cable isn't cheap!

 

yeah there's a reason the cords are now locked up at home depot - hah hah
the issue I have is that the cottage has a fairly new 240v well with one 240v cord and the generator has a L14-30R for 240v.
Thats not a problem.
The house well though is older and the way it was wired is with two 120v cords going to it for 240v.
So I think I need something like this for the house.
I am totally taken a back, that dedicated Electrical Suppliers dont have these adapters yet they can be bought on Ama-zon if you google it. I typed into google Male L14-30P with two 120v female outlets and this came up.

 

Granger sells them, looks Lowes does too.

https://www.grainger.com/product/53...Vc9G6tt-gagelzmUFHBoCRzYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

yeah, Lowes got taken over by RONA here in Canada.
Their prices are always higher i find, but they do price matches and then they give u 10% off on the price match. If you want to go through that trouble. I did do this with this new to me Tri Fuel generator I bought.
This Firman cord looks like a great option because my freezer and water softeners are in the same corner as the water well pump. So the two 120 volt cords the Water Well uses may work good here as the new Generator I want to use on this side hooked up to NG, is 120v or 240v - one or the other. Set it at 120 and use all four outlets.

https://firmanpowerequipment.com/products/1120

Also I have found that Walmart online (not the store) has really upped their game on competing with Ama-zon and others. Plus free shipping through FEDEX. So my stuff last month has not been affected by the Canada Postal Strike. You know - when you consider that the Canadian dollar has nosedived to 70 cents versus the US dollar, (since Trump threatened 25% tariffs against us), these prices below really make no sense. The Cord through Firman is $100 us dollars (plus shipping for Canada). Its like they said last year when inflation was high and demand crazy with stuck shipping containers. Everyone ordered more product. Now there is this glut of product (especially full size pickup trucks - keeping it thread relevant) lol . Expect even bigger discounts soon on products.

 

It’s crazy yall are still buying these things, guess I’ll wait another year on the Lexus

https://www.tundras.com/threads/202...-need-to-be-extended-to-the-24-models.152208/

 

So, some random dude has a blown-up engine on a Tundra. Mine has been flawless but I have a Hybrid. One thing I did do different is I changed out the engine oil at exactly 1000 miles. Could this have potentially flushed the engine of any and all debris before it could do damage? I do not know but most of the engines I see affected are the non-hybrid models. Maybe I am just special, and I got the non engine blowing up one, I do know that my build was delayed as they cleaned the manufacturing process up in jan Feb of 2023.

 

That's great you got a non-exploding motor but it truly sucks for anyone that has one and isn't part of the recall. The short block replacements are not acceptable in any way. How many short blocks are on their third engine??? *ANY* Toyota with a blown V35 deserves a new long block, period. Anything else, shame on Toyota.

 

This is FUNNY, the Tundra is still better than the other 3 full size trucks on the market. If you feel this way then sell it, buy a v8 Tundra and be happy. I find it so funny how some person comes onto the Tundra forum and posts about a 2024 exploding motor? How many miles was on the truck? how did he treat the truck during the break in period? what was done differently to this truck to the other models? I would imagine if you compared engine failures then you will find the Tundra still behind Ford, Ram, and Chevy.