2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

ya, its more than just a tune to be fair, I think its

tune
cat back
CIA
stickers

but ya HP gain is weak and it also lowers the torque peak to 2,000 instead of 2,400.

not worth $3,400 to me at all, to each his own

https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota...rformance-package-power-up-option-for-tundra/

 

"and the menacing exhaust note provide auditory proof of a measurable performance enhancement worthy of TRD"

its a 3.4 L toyota, lets not get carried away here lol

 

You're going to get scolded by the "tuning bros" crowd.

But isn't it interesting that when a manufacturer uses the same engine from a 2500/3500 vehicle in a 4500/5500/6500 platform, it is de-tuned/de-rated. They might know something the "tuning bro" crowd doesn't.

Also, I see way more catastrophic engine failures in tuned powertrains than stock powertrains. In this case, it's basically a FBO and tuned N55i versus a stock powertrain S55 M3. One blown non-domestic engine replacement out of warranty usually makes people reconsider some of their life choices.

 

It does seem that the de-tuned/de-rated commercial medium duty engines tend to have a longer life compared to the up-tuned/up-rated consumer duty counterparts. I see this a lot in diesel municipal fleet vehicles.

 

Comparing their trucks to the 3G Tundra in 2017 is the most impressive part of that.

 

well, since he said he knew ford needed to top Toyota, I figured I would explain that the 3.5 Ecoboosts were already making more power than TRD tuned 3rd gen’s 6-7 years before the TRD tune even came out. An FP tune wasn’t even needed to top them.

 

Literally had nothing to do with Toyota but if that’s what they need to believe. . .

 

They don't need too. The Ford and Toyota have an oil dipstick that alone makes me buy the Toyota or the F150 over the Ram Hurricane.

 

First I heard of this trend was a friend's Audi. When I change my oil, I'm obsessive about getting the level as close to perfect as I can. Not sure I could handle not being able to visibly check it.

 

I still think it's better than what Ford put out for the Raptor, talk about a joke. Total money grab. Goosetuned for Ford is the only way.

 

Hey
I hope you guys are doing good. This dropped into the queue.
So I watched it, and I thought it would be a good share as "The" Toyota Mechanic offers I think,
good technical information, and some interesting subjective opinions.

The Car Care Nut review of the 2024 F150 Platinum.

https://youtu.be/HMXCktpR1Po?si=DM2ogNpMN0WqYGL6

 

I was hoping he was going over the V8 version.

 

Ditto, but honestly, I knew something was 'off' so I dunno if I'd call that deception so much as a 'costume'? LOL

But I get your point and largely agree. I'm simply saying that as reviews go, more informative than most.

 

damn, I thought this thread died

 

too underpowered for consideration

 

400 HP is underpowered?

 

lol, was kinda just pulling your leg,

but whats that other important thing for a truck and where does that peak at?

 

Oh, I know. I was feigning shock.

The Tundra will definitely hit peak power sooner, BUT both are gonna be close to the same 0-60 times IIRC. Still, for day to day use, peak power numbers and when they come in don't matter a ton, do they?

 

100% peak power and when it comes in matters, (not sure if your joking here).

drop a trailer on each, and time them again...., that's where it matters. and it matters with the ease of driving, don't have to rev like crazy to pull or accelerate.

just my .02, I do get that

 

Depends on how much you tow. Throw 7,000# behind a NA truck and a forced induction and you'll tell a huge difference.

 

I don't try to tow fast or accelerate quickly when towing. After years of driving diesels and towing, gassers will never measure up, so I just enjoy the ride. If I towed 7K pounds with any regularity I wouldn't be buying a 1/2 ton or a gasser. Besides, I'll get better MPGs towing than the turbo truck with the same load.

Not joking. Good enough is just that, and for me the latest V8s are plenty good enough for a gasser light duty truck. If I get to where I feel like I need more I can always throw the SC on it and it'll be pushing 700 HP and 650 lb-ft. Then, even with the worse power curve, it'll make more power sooner than the turbo 6.

 

if it works for you , thats all that matters.

 

You seem defensive so I'm not trying to start an argument at all. There's nothing wrong with the 5.0, but if you can't appreciate the confidence to pass or get up to highway speeds I question your "years of towing with diesels". And given your Wyoming elevation, a NA V8 wont even compare when unloaded.

 

ya, ya, ya, Ford guys arguing on tundra site,

let's get ready to rumble....

 

Not defensive at all. Just explaining my reasoning. However, I earned my pay with a CDL for several years and owned a Ram with a 5.9 cummins that I used to help haul hay and scrap cars for friends. Lots of experience. Enough to learn that when towing it's not about speed or passing. It's about making it as safe and enjoyable as possible.

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I don't try to tow at the speed limit. Just about every manufacturer recommends not towing over 60-65 MPH. Who are you passing at those speeds? I wind up in the right lane and only overtake the poor semis that are governed super hard. It's calm and peaceful.

 

Though at heart I'm still a Tundra guy. Wish I had kept my 2019.

 

low end torque and low peak torque is what made it slow, smooth, and peaceful, hehe

it wasn't higher rev HP for that.

 

And a rod bearing or two. But you’ll get a new engine, guess all that low end torque is taking a toll on those rod bearings that can’t bear the load…

 

My Ford dealer called not long ago and suggested they may be able to get me out of my 2021 into a 2024 with very little out of pocket. Idonno if I even want to entertain it. I own an oddball and would want something very comparable. 6.5 ft bed Supercrew XLT high Powerboost with 7.2 kilowatt inverter and panoramic moonroof.

If they want to really square me away I expect that, don't put me in a
5.0 or standard Ecobolst xlt and try to tell me you did me a favor. Also as discussed here before They pulled features out since my year so I'd probably really need to be in a Lariat now.

Probably Gonna stick with my plan to monitor the new Ram Charger over the next 5 years until my extended warranty is up.