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Lower just the rear of a 2024 tundra. Enough to level the truck

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Tundra3211, Dec 30, 2023.

  1. Dec 30, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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    I am looking at lowering the rear of a 2024 tundra SR5 non air suspension.
    Maybe an 1” or so. I am not interested in lifting the front to make it level, more interested in lowering the back. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Jan 13, 2024 at 8:33 PM
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    Seems like a massive expense a horrible ride just cause you wanna be different. There is really no good reason to level your truck that way. The independent 4 link needs the room and ergonomics to work properly. That is way you have not seen a ton of easy cheapish lift options. The current suspension options are 4 grand and up so the entire rear can be changed so it works properly. Just hacking off or replacing springs will cost you a shit ton in money and ride quality and you will just end up putting it back to stock.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2024 at 7:37 AM
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    +1 on the shorter coil springs but like @mleaky wrote, good luck finding them since no one makes them. The look you’re after is not one that is highly sought after.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2024 at 7:42 AM
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    They don't make them cause it's a bad idea. The look is highly sought after ..... it's leveled. It's like saying I'm not gonna cut my hair I am gonna have surgery and lower my ears.
     
  8. Apr 25, 2024 at 9:22 AM
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    I don't think a 1"-2" difference in lowering the spring height is gonna make such a horrible difference in ride/handling. Definitely not going to have the same level of detriment on ride/handling as a 3" lift with 35" tires does.

    The Sport model I own already has a 1" lowered spring in the front and anyone who has these gargantuan overlander setups in their cargo bed has probably sagged the stock suspension well over an inch. I haven't seen anyone reporting significant issues with ride or handling. Additionally, don't the Tundras with AVS provide the ability to operate the truck in the lower range of its suspension travel?

    I don't think changing the rear springs 1"-2" shorter is as significant as you think. Now if you're talking lowrider type setups where the suspension is basically just bottomed out or where the frame needs to be notched to accommodate axle travel, I would agree with you.

    But that's not what the original poster and I are contemplating. I think we both have the Sport model and want to lower the rear suspension so that it complements the stock front suspension in ride height. Everyone uses their truck for their lifestyle and adapts it as such. My truck came with the stock 20" TRD wheels with the 32" tires on the Sport suspension, I put on an ARE camper shell to use the bed in a more SUV type role, I've got the bedrug installed back there too. The cargo my truck usually hauls is people, trips to home depot, guns/target setups to the range, surfboards to the beach, and luggage on the occasional weekend trip. I want the truck to handle well on the highway and be able to stop, accelerate, and turn as best as possible.

    I don't haul large heavy loads, I don't tow anything more than a small utility trailer thats less than 1000 lbs, I don't offroad or put my truck through extreme suspension articulation. I don't want 35" tires that double the unsprung weight over stock tires and ruin my acceleration, braking, and handling. Nor do I want a lifted suspension that is soft and squishy to handle trail obstacles.

    I just want the rear suspension leveled with the stock front suspension and then maybe upgrade the stock tires to a P-rated 33" with a tread with thats wider than stock tires.

    If anyone has information (length and rate) on the OEM rear springs for a Sport model I think that would be a start to solving this. Maybe its possible the rear springs are similar to some other trims and the lowered fit we're looking for could be accomplished by just shortening some takeoff springs that one of the lifted bros aren't using.
     
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  10. Apr 25, 2024 at 11:26 AM
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  11. Apr 25, 2024 at 11:35 AM
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    If you lower your truck in the rear you will have to change your linkage . Maybe going just one inch you might not have to but it is gonna cause issues. Go look at how a 4 link suspension works and it's set up and you should be able to see what I'm saying. In the end I don't really care I was just trying to save you some money and headaches. Why do you think you can't find kits to do this because it shouldn't be done.
     
  12. Apr 25, 2024 at 11:58 AM
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    1. Step 1 take your coil spring out of rear of truck
    2. Step 2 Grab your trusty death wheel aka angle grinder.....upload_2024-4-25_12-58-19.png
    3. Step 3 Put your coils back in and hear them clang and rattle every bump you hit
    4. Step 4 realize you should have raised the front 0.75" to 1"
     
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  13. Apr 25, 2024 at 12:18 PM
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    Sell the truck and buy a Camry.

    Rear suspension on a truck is higher to accommodate loads in the bed or hitched onto the bumper.

    Sounds like you’re driving a truck solely for cosmetics.

    Stop wasting your money and buy a car.
     
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    I'm with the original poster. I just bought my 2024 tundra SR5 four-wheel drive, and I'm coming from a 2016 GMC Sierra z71 with 3 and 1/2 in lift on the front, 2 in lift on the rear and 35x12.50's on black 20x10 rims. My sierra sat higher and just had a more off-road aggressive look. My new tundra sits lower and just seems like it should have a more sport truck look... I come from always having lowriders and sport trucks all my life. My last trip was my first four-wheel drive and I think I'm going to get back to the sport truck feel and handling performance.... And with this truck being four-wheel drive it would make a hell of a track toy... So I think I'm going to go down two in the front and four in the rear. Give it a really aggressive look. Put some 22x10 in bronze rims on it and some 345/30 22's... I think the bronze rims on greenish grey paint job will look really good..... I think it's going to be in true JDM fashion...
     
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    You gonna fab all that up by yourself? Seems like a pretty radical modification plan. There's not much aftermarket for 3rd Gen suspension mods compared to domestic pickups.

    Like the OP, I just want to lower the rear 1"-2". I figure an airbag setup to replace the rear coils would accomplish that easy, but there are no options for the 3rd Gen.

    I don't think a replacement coil will work to lower this truck. The stock coils on the 3rd Gen are so soft that even a light trailer setup sags them pretty substantially. Quite a few folks use supplemental airbag setups on the rear to get the truck level again and keep it off the bump stops when towing or using overlander setups.
     
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    Old mini-trucker here and 2WD Sport Truck guy after that.....
    I'm in for pics. You ever build anything with a high degree of fab involved? Because fitting steamrollers on all four corners AND having a functional truck when you're done is not a walk in the park.
    If you can pull this off it would be badass. Maybe not the JDM fashion part but....the rest of it.
    Issues:
    Realistically, you'd probably have to widebody it.
    345 section tire will need a 12" rim minimum, not 10". Plus I don't believe that size exists.
    A 325/35R22 (a size that does exist) tire is only 31" tall. Gonna look tiny (diameter wise) in the wheelwell, unless you reshape/resize the wheel opening in the fenders when you widebody.
    It can be done. Never say never. Just be prepared :spending: if you don't have great fab skills.
     
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    I don't have fan skills but I was hoping I could find a shop that does or find the kit I'm looking for one day. This will not be an overnight project. But I'm not afraid of dragging it out to make sure it's done right. I very seldom use my truck in the way the truck was intended. But I've had lowriders before that I could still hook a trailer to to carry my tools to a job site. As far as ride quality goes I'm not to concerned with that if I was I wouldn't have bought a Corvette. And as far as the 345/30r22's. Go yes they will fit 10" wide rims. It gives them a nice bulge and more aggressive look I think. And the do make them cuz I've ran them before.
    https://www.tires-easy.com/345-30-2..._ZM9Ct7qap0MAvib0cpYCKK-8S6UDO4K0G5lNAcs9ofdp

    It's gonna be a work in progress I know. But that's half the fun.
     
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    I stand by my statement that a 345/30/22 (the original size you listed) does not exist. The tire you linked to is a 20" and only 28" in overall diameter / height.
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous that will look in a giant Tundra wheel arch, no matter how much you slam it? (When stock 32.5's look small to begin with?)
    Bulging a wide tire onto a rim that is minimum 2" narrower than what it is designed for, will negate any performance benefit of running a wide tire.
    If all you're interested in is "the look" and not performance, I wish you the best of luck in the quest for whatever look that might be.

    The other point I didn't touch on originally:
    4WD is NOT the same as AWD.
    You run even skinny tires in 4WD around corners on the street, much less on a track, and you will soon have a 2WD or 0WD truck.
     
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    You're right I apologize I went back and looked at old invoices and it was 325/30 22's. And the 24's I ran later were 315/35 24's. I had 4 different size tires over the course of nearly 7 years on that 2010 sierra. So I was getting my numbers confused.
     

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