Another dead tundra

The 5th gen 4Runner is essentially a rebadged Land Cruiser Prado with a v6. They hold value VERY well and will last FOR. EVV. ERRRRRR if you just take care of them.

 

A 2024 4Runner is the best new vehicle on the Toyota lot today. I am very happy I got my 2022 4R SR5, was 40k before taxes and been great. The 2025 looks to be the better option compared to the new “Land Cruiser”, but the 5th gen 4runner will be resale king.

 

…and it was designed in 2009. The V6 is indeed reliable, but very inefficient and frankly, it’s pretty f’ing slow. And it’s small. Lasting forever is great… but personally i wouldn’t want to drive that dinosaur for ever.
It’s a good rig, don’t get me wrong, All I’m saying is this guy was driving a loaded up 1794…moving to a 4running is a downgrade in every conceivable way except raw reliability and maybe maneuverability since it’s small. Every new vehicle has its share of hiccups, this dude just drew the short straw. 98% of us not experience the same issues.

 

If there’s a lot less to go wrong, and it will last forever, most of us on this here Toyota forum would call that an upgrade.

Mine was fantastic. It had some torque converter chatter at the end that I never fully chased down. We outgrew it. Or I’d still be in it. What a ridiculously fantastic vehicle. 4.slow and all, lol.

 

Yep. Reliability is cool but the vehicles are not comparable in performance.

edit: I’m giving a family member my 02 Tacoma this weekend. I’m sure that the engine could be running long after my 3.4tt hybrid shits the bed. Doesn’t change the fact I’m never looking back. The gen3 is sick.

 

Good lord what a ridiculous posting. 'Personal shelf?' Are you kidding!?

 

Chef, mebbe?

 

I get that 100. So, that was in the winter. The dealership ruled out that being an issue before fixing under warranty. This time I have no dead battery or anything. It was running fine and died while driving. The worst case scenario the light bar could have done was drain the 12v.

 

Or, performance is cool, but the vehicles are not comparable in reliability.

I can totally understand someone being frustrated by a new vehicle and going back to a proven design. Toyota owners historically are not fickle and do not need to switch it up every few years because they get bored.

 

I think there is some confusion here. It looks like you posted in the engine failure thread, but you don't know if your engine is actually needing a rebuild. @ColoradoTJ started that thread to track engine rebuilds only.

You said "round 2 for me" but round one was not having a complete engine rebuild due to a spun bearing. It was needing a hybrid inverter. It sounds like your issues now may be related to being in a massive accident with the truck. If your truck is not having its engine rebuilt, I would delete that post in the engine failures thread.

 

Odd you said that. I don't believe the tone of the post was in a joking manner. It was more constructive. The Brother who started the post, actually agreed with my statements on the issue. Might need to look at previous posts Brother before mentioning the Lord. Also, Brother my statement mentioned 3rd Generation. I wonder why you personally, took issue with the post?

 

The word 'lord' isn't synonymous with THE "L"ord...know the difference. Triggered much, Rabbi?
The point is the constant bashing by gen 3 fanbois of anyone here with criticisms including other gen 3 sufferers. Some of us want the straight dope on these things/hope springs eternal for a trouble-free example.

Theater of the absurd overall.

 

I totally understand now. You don't want to listen and see what happens, you prefer to speak on these issues right now; even though the issue really does not apply to you. We have a legal concept in the law that is similar "ripe" or "ripeness". Two things can be true. This is Theatre of the Absurd. All good Brother.

 

Au contaire, brother. As one of the original placers of a gen 3 order (long since cancelled) I've been 'watching and listening' about everything gen 3-related for almost four years now. I continue to, but seeing fanboi members here stifle HONEST dissussion has gotten tiresome and mundane.

 

That sums it up perfectly.

Don't want to hear about another problem with these trucks, don't click the link. Simple as that.

 

I think you should put it in a failures even if it's not clear it's a bearing issue.

 

I only posted there because someone told me to. That being said my trucks drivetrain did fail to the point where it cannot be driven. Both times the truck failed where it left me stranded and had to go on a flatbed. I’m sorry you’re triggered because it went into a wrong thread

 

It’ll at least be reliable.

 

Give me a break dude. I was one of the guys who referred that thread to you. We both said if you have an engine failure (as in short block rebuild as the thread states) then you should post in there.

 

Sorry lol.
There was no “massive rebuild” either. I was side swept and was all cosmetic damage. Not sure how a hybrid would fail due to cosmetic damage.

 

Two weeks tomorrow. Dealer still believes it is the hybrid inverter like last time. Toyota Canada wants the, to redo the diagnostics over again. God knows when I’ll get the truck back.

 

Yes it will. My buddy had a 2013 Tacoma, with the 4.slow and 5 speed. He gave it to his son with 140K miles on it. It now has 230K and going strong with no issues, even after 16-20 year old boy abuse (joyriding, off-roading, and towing). He also has a 2020 TRD Pro 4Runner, which now as 50K miles on it, with zero issues. Enough convincing that I got the wife a 2024 Runner so I wouldn't have to worry about her. She's 52, so it will probably outlive her.

Don't get me wrong, I have a 2024 Tundra I-Force Max, I love the power. But I'm also not naive enough to think the newer vehicles will last as long. My wife's Runner will outlive my Tundra by hundreds of thousands of miles. I appreciate the old school feel and nature of the Runner, it's fantastic. That said, mo powa baby! I'll keep my race car truck and replace it whenever I need to any day.

 

It seems like the failures are slowing down even though there are more units in service and miles being driven.
55 posts going back and forth on if this is an engine failure or not.

 

I don’t believe it is.

what really gets me is Toyota will only approve a compact car for a rental… my vehicle is a truck. This has already caused me to cancel campsites, which I still lost money on, has prevented me from towing horses, I can’t load 4 bikes on a hitch mount. I find it aggravating.

 

My wife has a 2022 4runner and we got it for similar reasons. Just something that I never have to worry about letting her down. I always think about picking one up for myself but then I drive it and don’t think I can do it after experiencing the power in the tundra. The 4Runner is reliable but man it is so slow! But even with my 3rd Gen Tacoma I always thought that seemed way quicker than the 4runner. I know people aren’t buying it for speed but after you drive anything else you realize how slow it really is. That being said that 4runner will stay in the family for life.

 

I have a similar issue. My vehicle is waiting on parts for an engine rebuild. First off, they didn't want to give me a rental until I argued with them. They told me the most they would offer was $50 CAD /day which puts me in the range of a compact car. I fought with Toyota Canada and now we have a Toyota 4Runner as a rental. Still far off from a 2022 Toyota 1794 edition. I also had to cancel many camping trips and lose money. I have a Canada/US camping trip planned for August which is now in jeopardy. My vehicle has been at the dealer shop since June 14th for a shortblock engine replacement with no end in sight. Many parts needed are now on backorder with no ETA on parts arrival.

 

Same. I actually had the GX460 with the 4.6L V8 in the same chassis as the 4Runner and even that felt like a turd.

The GX460/4Runner are really uninspiring to drive.

 

the first time in I had to argue to get a rental. This time I didn’t have to argue but it took a week. Now I’m arguing to get a truck. Today, i got up and thought I’d take my kids mountain biking.. but then realized I'm not sure how I’ll get three bikes and two kids into a Camry. Very agitating.

I realize what I’m going to say next is Acura. But whenever my suv was in for service they’d give me a loaner free of charge. I’ve only had my suv in for an extended period of time once, (which ended up being an unseated footwell bulb causing fuse to blow), and they guaranteed an equal or better car. I’m not saying i expect a platinum hybrid tundra, but at least give me a ford with a tow package. lol