Why no new posts in the engine failures thread?

I'm not seeing it. Please link to it.

 

https://www.tundras.com/threads/3-4-i-force-engine-failures.121107/unread

 

Looks like 90+% of the failures are 2022 build dates at least from that small sample size. Last build date was November 23 and it was a 23 model though.

 

For clarity, the engine failure thread was never locked, blocked, or otherwise inaccessible. The "official" RECALL thread was the one that devolved and was nuked.

 

You are referring to the engine failure thread with very few recent posts. I'm referring to the "Engine recall" thread that was killed....for the 2nd time apparently.

 

You can argue it a 100 ways to Sunday and use it to arrive at your preferred narrative. Is the sample size statistically significant? The number of Gen3's represented on the forum are too small to matter so the sample doesn't mean anything. Or, you can say that Facebook, Reddit and noisy ass Tundra Forum people recruit everyone they can so it might not be accurate from an overstating standpoint. Or you could say that Toyota is a bunch of liars and that's why there are no more 23's and 24's. There's something for everyone.

Statistically significant or not, it has been pretty linear re failures.

 

Yeah, the recall thread you are referring to was the dumpster fire that is no longer around. The I force failures sticky is the one that hasn't changed as Godzilla was mentioning.

 

This issue is so hot and people are so righteous that explaining the baseline is a waste of time.
People don't understand the difference between mediation and arbitration and are going to be tough guys?
Again, I think it doesn't really matter because there is a 50/50 chance that Toyota will provide non-standard dispensation.

 

Well what does a non standard dispensation look like in this instance and will NHTSA allow it?

 

the NHTSA recall report only lists that the effected vehicles have production dates of “NOV 02, 2021 - FEB 13, 2023”

 

We were all referring to it. You quoted asking for a link to it.



The recall thread is completely gone. Has been for a day or two. It's never coming back. No comments about new post will refer to that thread because it was

 

Who knows? It could be a fast tracked buyback at favorable terms. Extended warranties. Big fat incentive coupons to keep you in a Toyota.
No clue what NHTSA will allow but there are a lot of levers Toyota can pull.

 

I give this thread less than 48 hours as the usual world is ending, sell anything with a Toyota logo have surfaced here once again.

 

My father in law, who doesn’t own or know anything about Toyota, came and asked me if I knew there was a recall and asked how much of a mess it is. This fire has gotten out of control

 

I’m not sure which thread is the best dumpster to set this comment on fire in and this hopefully won’t doom mine… I love my 22… I’d love nothing more than an oil analysis saying mine is clean(so far I’ve towed several trips and driven a lot of highway for right at 30k miles) and then hook me up with an extended warranty for peace of mind… well I have that… so maybe pay me back for mine, if that’s possible lol

oh and I wish you all good luck, good vibes, and ts&ps. I know this is worrisome for all. Even if you’re like me and happy. I’ve been lurking for awhile. Thanks for the info and entertainment!

 

I’m curious on the thinking of simultaneously stating that they know the specific production dates of the vehicles affected, but do not know the number or percentage of how many vehicles were affected. Note they state in the recall that putting the number 1 in means “unknown” percentage affected.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but how can Toyota simultaneously claim to not know how many vehicles are defective but claim specific start and stop dates of the defect itself?

 

Does anyone know what Toyota is talking about regarding “a different V35A configuration with different pressure on the main bearings.” When they are referring to engines not affected?

Are these the base model detuned engines?

 

I suspect they are actually talking about the GX550 which has the same type21' motor but has less hp due to the smaller turbos. They could also be referring to the LS500 motor. The type 17' variant in that car has an electronically controlled oil pressure not mechanical.

 

Has anyone been able to confirm that the affected version(s) of V35A engine is made only in Alabama and then shipped to Japan for install in the LX600? I’m reading both. Some claiming all of the engines came from Alabama and others claiming that engines made in Japan that were affected too.

 

Good info!

Looks like there are actually a lot of variants of the V35A. See below for all the different versions of the motor.

• 2017–present Lexus LS 500 (VXFA50/55)
• 2021–present Land Cruiser (VJA300)
• 2021–present Tundra (VXKA70/71/72/75/76/77)
• 2021–present Tundra Hybrid (VXKH70/71/75/76)
• 2021–present Lexus LX 600 (VJA310)
• 2022–present Sequoia Hybrid (VXKH80/85)

• 2023–present Lexus GX 550

 

Guy on Reddit is claiming to work at Alabama engine plant and issue has been traced it to a specific crew working night shift that did not follow correct procedures.

Could be total BS, but good news if true.

 

only problem with with buying low on these trucks is they won’t sell high…. When I sold my 22 I took a bath on it, resale sucks on the 3g trucks and will continue to get worse with all the bad press

 

I am just watching the comedy among the Toyota faithful. I have owned 12 different brands in my life. Only ones that ever burned me were

I concur. The Ford Senior VP of customer engagement personally called me in 1997 to tell me Ford had billions of dollars and so many customers that I and my problem did not matter. Never even casually glanced at a Ford since assuming that culture is in their DNA

Ram adopted the Toyota model of sticking with the same engines, tranny's and chassis for long periods out of necessity. I know many people with the 2013 model with a ton of trouble free miles. That said I would not jump on a hurricane 6 for several model years

 

That spreadsheet is interesting, and has some good information. I know it's not all inclusive, but I only see one 2024 on it. One question I'd like to see is whether or not the failures were confirmed to be the bearing issue. Engines fail for other reason, too, and it's possible the 2024 suffered from a different failure.

Maybe I'm just wishful thinking, since my truck falls outside the recall range. Either way, it won't change how I use my truck. I'd go cross country in it tomorrow, without a worry. If it fails, I'll deal with it then. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my truck and not worry about things I can't control.

 

Same crew working at the engine assembly line in Japan? Wow.

 

Could be all kinds of things. Even a disgruntled employee sabotaging the engines he or she assembled. Any current gen owners should, even if Toyota doesn't pay for it, drop the oil pan, check the pan and oil pick up for shavings, cut open the oil filter, check for glitter. New oil filter, new pan gasket, reassemble and refill. Its about the only thing owners can do to give themselves some reassurance.

 

Have you done this? Can the pan be easily dropped with engine in mounts? What about debris that is restricting a oil passage and starving a bearing long term? Once you have the pan off, why not drop the crankshaft bed to inspect the crank bearings?
With engines failing from two facilities, the employee being a source is doubtful.

 

Can someone point me to a credible link that confirms engine failures from 2 different plants? Thanks.

 

"Manufacturer of Engine assembly: Toyota Motor Corporation Tahara Plant 3-1 Midorigahama, Tahara, Aichi 441-3401, Japan Phone: +81-531-22-6161 Country of Origin: Japan Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Alabama, Inc. [“TMMAL”] 1 Cottonvalley Drive NW, Huntsville, Alabama 35810 Phone: 256-746-5000 Country of Origin: U.S.A."

From Toyota document posted to NHTSA.gov: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V381-8150.pdf

 

BTW, I've been to Tahara. It is an amazing place. They build everything there including engines, body panels, and the finished vehicles.