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Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by northerntundra1, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. May 27, 2024 at 6:57 AM
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    No. I don't hang out on the F150 forum either. Why would I?
     
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    AZBoatHauler SSEM#140 / 2.5 gen plebe

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    How will they know they drive a POS tho?
     
  3. May 27, 2024 at 7:01 AM
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    They like their trucks. My opinion is that it's a noisy POS. My opinion has no relevance to their experience.
    If they like them that's great by me.
     
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  4. May 27, 2024 at 7:03 AM
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    Do you have 911's?
     
  5. May 27, 2024 at 7:17 AM
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    paynuss stretchers
    You are hereby charged with one count of heresy.
     
  6. May 27, 2024 at 7:17 AM
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    Clunky and out of date. Google image that to see a picture of me. Add grouchy for quicker results.
     
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  7. May 27, 2024 at 7:29 AM
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    Breathing Borla I'd rather be fishing

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    and there is the difference, I don’t really get why this group who have all said we don’t like the gen 3, Toyota went backwards, it’s unreliable , and “I would never buy one”

    but yet post in this section with that same thing all the time . When there is a thread with someone who has a problem or a dislike , boom, here they all come , you can set your watch to it

    kinda odd
     
  8. May 27, 2024 at 8:22 AM
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    Terndrerrr 925000 miles to go

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    Two things:

    1. I use the front page of the forum and generally interact with threads that have the most recent activity, regardless of the subforum those threads live in. For better or worse, these 3rd gen issue threads have lots of conversations in them that keep at the top of the first page I see.

    2. I'm very curious to hear anything from Toyota about the main bearing issue. It stands to reason that threads discussing the issue would have that info first. The oil report with high fuel content and low flashpoint is concerning as well. It's in this thread or one of the others lol. It will be interesting if Toyota is paying attention to those results and changes their tune on OCI or oil weight. But we might also never hear a single thing. Failures continue into 2024. I mean, Toyota has let known issues run for a very long time in other platforms (200 series Land Cruiser faulty radiator design 2008-2018, anyone?). But not when it comes to catastrophic drivetrain failure. Very unlike Toyota.

    I will be very interested to see how things are going when a significant number of V35A-FTS trucks have 100k miles on them. I'm not here to kick anyone when they're down. The "it's better in literally every single way imaginable than the 2nd gen" posts are hilarious and fun for me to provide a counter perspective on.

    Our friend @Eurodriver had 136k on his detuned '22 SR last I heard. I had asked him again a couple times what mileage he was up to, but he wouldn't answer the question directly and then totally disappeared. His use case was valuable IMO.
     
  9. May 27, 2024 at 8:25 AM
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    Breathing Borla I'd rather be fishing

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    Right on time :burp:
     
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    Do you walk into the wrong bathroom and start commenting by mistake?
     
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    Breathing Borla I'd rather be fishing

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    has to comment and is interested in the toilet mint longevity and if there are any cracked in half
     
  12. May 27, 2024 at 8:35 AM
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    I don't see any actual 2024 builds on this failure list:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...H7IQJKCX5E50vAXpeUogyH5shM/edit#gid=780956012

    Maybe it hasn't been updated or is missing info? I see one 24 with a 11/15/23 build date. Of course vehicle build date in San Antonio and the engine build date in Huntsville are gonna be substantially different.
     
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  13. May 27, 2024 at 8:40 AM
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    Terndrerrr 925000 miles to go

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    That's a good question. I'm sure there are very few of those that are already outside of warranty due to mileage. We'll see when we get a few more years out.

    I would think he's up around that mileage, yeah, but he said he had stopped driving as much in his last response to me. Seems like lots of his stuff got deleted though.

    Sucks to hear about the SRs. Looks like the Bearing Monster does not discriminate.
    Odd analogy as public bathrooms aren't places for discussion. Forums are. Discussing the 3rd gen should take place in the 3rd gen subforum. I have never posted here to tell people their specific truck sucks. Others have, sure. That noise has died down quite a bit thankfully. I just want to hear more about oil reports and to see if Toyota will say anything.

    And yes, like I said, I get roped into replying by the "it's literally better in every single way" posts.
     
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  14. May 27, 2024 at 8:58 AM
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    borla123 The Pits

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    I have owned mine for more than 20 years.
    Long before they became a "thing" and started selling for more than the new 911's.
    This is good and bad.
    Good in that outside of my house, it has appreciated in value alot more than my stocks. lol
    Bad - in that I am more nervous to drive it now because of this. And these cars need to be driven hard to run their best.
    And replacement cost insurance has gone up a lot.
     
  15. May 27, 2024 at 9:09 AM
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    No doubt there are post about the people saying it’s better in every single way. But a lot of people will say that their 3rd gen has none of the issues that some owners experience and a lot of the times it’s a pissing match with the second gen guys. Some of them can’t believe that some 3rd gen owners are happy with their trucks and don’t experience the issues that some trucks seem to have. No doubt there was growing pains and still are, but that doesn’t mean that all 3rd gen owners are experiencing the issues. I don’t think my truck is the best of anything in relation to all other trucks. But you know what it’s good at, fitting my family, long bed for loading stuff related to business needs, and is more comfortable than my Tacoma ever was and the power beat the hell out of the Tacoma as well. Will I end up having a lemon? Who knows. Will it be reliable and last 200-300k miles with minimum maintenance? Who knows. But one thing is for sure, all the Toyotas I’ve ever owned have never let me down and I trust this truck just as much. Hopefully it doesn’t let me down but in the meantime I’ll enjoy my time driving it! And I’d do the same if I had a 2nd gen!
     
  16. May 27, 2024 at 9:26 AM
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    Do you spend time on renlist talking shit about later gen 911’s? Do you see others doing a lot of that?
     
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    But they do suck:rofl:

    My cousin let me borrow his 98 supercab 8’ bed for a week or two and it was pretty atrocious.
     
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  18. May 27, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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    Sometimes people don't know what they don't know. My family thinks the 7.3 is a great reliable workhorse but they never drove my 6.7 pulling a trailer. Maybe your cousin loves his too? As long as it fits their needs that's all that matters.
    It's not as extreme but when I drive a gen2.5 after having the gen3 I have no desire to go back.
     
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    borla123 The Pits

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    LOL - ok
    I can tell you I have had at least 1/2 dozen new 911 owners pull up to me and offer a straight trade.
    If that happens one day with the 22+ owners and the older ones on the road one day.... we will know won't we ? 8^)
    I like being incognito these days and yeah - that car is a real problem in that way.

    Regarding the forums.
    I am only on the Porsche forums to figure out how to find or fix something for my car.
    Have absolutely no interest in 911 Porsche post 993.
    The good thing about the 993 is it was put together by humans, by hand for the most part, and therefore human hands can take it apart - w/tools.
    I am here to hopefully share good info when I post, for stress relief and entertainment.
    I won't lie, I find the 3rd Gen forum very entertaining.
    The 2nd Gen forum has been recycled pretty good.
    If something is shit on my truck I call it out - like the stupid ass Toyota sunroof drains design on mine.
    If I find something worse on the new truck or just plain shit - I will call it out. Some have issues with this.
    Happy Memorial day to my American friends.
     
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    Nope. Their engines are good till they're bad, and then they're bad, whatever you do. White block is a long lasting, but basically a throw away engine.
     
  21. May 27, 2024 at 9:57 AM
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    Seems like a shitty design. Can you lawyer up and lemon law them?
     
  22. May 27, 2024 at 10:01 AM
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    I've had a dozen going back to an '80SC. All, including the 993 have trade offs. Rennlist is > Tundra forums because people are better about commenting on what they have experience with. A vastly better signal to noise ratio.
     
  23. May 27, 2024 at 10:07 AM
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    I don't disagree, but there are some who also take any legit criticism as pissing match material.

    I legitimately hope the 3rd gen turns out to be as reliable as the previous generations. It is bizarre to see some commenting that they don't care about that metric at all when Toyota has basically built their entire reputation on it.
     
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    No my cousin couldn’t care less. It was one of his company trucks that his employees drove.

    It is def a workhorse if you have nowhere to be. My neighbor also had one and I would pass him on a 50mph hill doing 20 mph towing his trailer.
     
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    For what? For lasting 5 times over warranty? ;)
     
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    No doubt about that! There will be whining in all forums hahah. Always good to have civilized discussions between owners of all gens! It will be really interesting to see if Toyota ever gives us any info on the failures but until then it’s all speculation. I hope all tundras are trouble free for all owners, as no one needs to be spending any of the hard earned money on something just to be in the repair shop most the time! I do think out of all the manufacturers, Toyota is working hard to correct this issue (as seen by the revised part number on the short block recently). They definitely don’t want to turn into the big 3 with reputation as the tundra is already in the back of the pack in terms of volume. So if they lose the reputation they have built on reliability who is to the say the tundra will continue.
     
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    Thanks for doing all that work. I'm wondering if there is anyway to also track the engine build date and/or version number? Might not matter. Also do they have an engine plant that makes these V35s in Japan? Be curious to know if its just an Alabama problem or not. Lots of Toyota mechanics on reddit saying the problem seems to be localized to a bad batch of '22 built engines?

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/a-deep-look-inside-the-twin-turbo-v6-that-replaced-toyotas-v8s


    e.g. "Yup, all the early 2022 tundra's will be affected. From what I've heard whoever manufactured the block forgot to drill out an oil gallery hole. We have four at our dealer waiting to get worked on."
     
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    Remember Boeing's mission was all about the best engineering possible? But, hey, now they compete with Airbus in terms of sales. Reputation-schmeputation.
     
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    The problem exists since 2018 till at least 2023. Same engine is made in Japan, same bearings problem in Lexus and Land Cruiser.
     
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    Hahaha, very true. I think I have way more faith in my tundra over getting on a Boeing plane at this point though. But similar situation where an emergency exit door flies off in flight and that’s all over the news. But they don’t talk about the thousands of successful Boeing planes that take off and land every day.

    The quality has definitely taken a hit everywhere in every form of workplace. People work for a paycheck now and nothing more. Corporations lack the care they once hard. Laying off people and making others pick up the slack so the numbers look good for investors. Passing up people for promotions to outside hire for cheaper labor. The list goes on and on. This makes it a revolving door for people to come in get trained and move on for a few more dollars an hour then the cycle repeats. Thus creating a workplace of high turnover and no care for the products they pump out.
     

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