Does anyone else HATE some of the technology that Toyota put in these?

So I didn't want to sit here and refer to ALL the poorly worded stuff in the Tundra's owner manual, but like this:


So my limited does not have this option in the dash. But I have a button to the side. Now I probably could have read this manual and searched through all my buttons to find the P ))) /\ . But imagine I am at a boat launch or in the middle of the road looking for this shit, and THE MANUAL is incorrect. And someone commented about the 7-pin automatically doing this. Why not a 4 pin? When I haul something I always check my trailer connections, drive a few feet, then check again. I put my mirrors how I want them and put the truck in tow/haul, and make sure it detects the trailer on the 4 pin. Why not disable these sensors for the 4 pin.

Side note: mine still didn't work with a 7 pin. So the manual, that came with a 2022 limited is incorrect. So I don't want to hear "Just read the manual" or "You didn't even take time to read the manual".

 

Is it possible there's something wrong with your sensors that's causing your particular issue? Maybe check with your dealer to see if they can be recalibrated? If your dealer can fix it then your manual will be correct again

 

Mike Sweers doesnt need to back up trailers therefore neither do you.

 

There's literally a giant, easily accessible physical button that turns off automatic braking for that exact reason. In fact it's not even one of the ones people can typically call annoying because it stays off even when the truck is turned off and back on again, so if you want, you can just never have it on and never encounter that problem again.

 

That’s what I did, mines never been on after I figured it out the first time

 

No sensors here other than front radar for TSS so I don't have to deal with those issue, thankfully.

 

I replied to the thread you created, so yes, I was talking to you.

Here's the button you need to press.

 

For sure, I was backing up in my daughter's school parking lot and there were a lot of people leaving at the same time so I was inching out of my spot to let people know I wanted to leave too. It slammed on the brakes on me a few times thinking I was going to hit someone or a vehicle. I thought I had hit something at first from the noise it made.

 

Thats the button....itll still beep but wont scare the living crap out of you when it slams on the brakes. You can turn off the beeping via the cluster menu (At least you can in my Platinum).

Cluster = Beep
Button = Knicker soiler

 

I guess if a truck isn't hauling a trailer then it's not a normal truck or it's not being as an "actual truck"?

Just because someone wants a more comfortable ride and all the nice stuff that goes along with it doesn't mean it can't be a truck anymore.

Kind of a weird take you have going on here. Do you question your masculinity by chance?

 

I think you think I care way more than I do.

 

Well I think that you think that I think I care way more about it than you think I think I do.

 

I mean I guess I phrased that poorly, but I mean in the sense of this is a good vehicle but cause me some grievances when using it to do truck things. That being said, I hooked up a Carista to fix a few other issues and my diagnostics told me that I had an issue with the parking sensor. I also hooked it up to my new techstream and the sensor is reading fine until something is near it, in which it shoots to good ol' -1. Brought to Toyota dealership and they confirmed the sensor was bad. Which is crazy because 3 months into owning this truck they I brought it to them saying it was acting up when hauling a trailer, they showed me the button, I told them it didn't work, and they told me the truck just needed an update. Regardless I have my initial main grief from this post is being resolved in 1-3 business weeks.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying you didn't use your truck as a real truck in a poorly phrased statement. All trucks are created equal and I hope you enjoy your Tundra as much as I enjoy mine.

 

So after testing my new toy which is a laptop with techstream and a OBD2 able, I found out the sensor is bad. My sensor works perfectly fine and shows no error UNLESS something is near it, in which it gets a bad reading and freaks out. Also fun fact, even when your sensor is turned off in the dash (for beeps) and the button (for automatic braking), it is still sensing. I guess because some of the new models have dashcams that auto turn on for accidents or just keep logs of the sensors on the truck.

So if your sensor is not working, turning it off won't do you any good, you just have to get it replaced. Thankfully mine is still in warranty as I am sure most Gen 3's still are, but I was too scared to ask the price. Also didn't think to ask the dealer's tech if by sensor, he meant the main module that talks to the computer, or each individual one. Because my super scientific testing of having my dad put his hand in front of them slowly one by one showed that all 4 sensors on my bumper gave the same bad reading.

Thank you guys for the long thread and excessive patience.

 

You didn't answer the big question though..... Did your manual correct itself?

 

My manual is correcting itself.

 

Interestingly, you said you phrased it poorly and then phrased it the same way all in the same sentence.

Ahhh... you can't hurt my feelings. I've held the flashlight for my dad many times before.

 

The big issue for me is how long will these tech items last.

Yes I am this much of a car geek, I watched a carcarenut YouTube video where he was the last stop to find out what was wrong with a (1995?) Lexus with 70k on Odem enter with a good running motor and no issue transmission. The car was given to a young relative attending college out of state.

2 different dealers couldn't figure it out after charging them quite a bit for changing out parts.

It turns out the ECU had a leaky capacitor on it. You can't get that anymore, so he sent it out to a electronics place to be repaired. It worked.

My point is that car was in perfect running shape but will be headed to the junk yard all because of a bad ECU card that is no longer made. I see this as the downfall of long term reliability going forward.

 

I am a pretty big advocate for Louis Rossman and the right to repair. I have several family members with farms of various sizes. One of my uncles was needing big combine and he had so many issues with his John Deere's. They lock down all the repairs to computers which I am afraid will bleed into the automotive industry in the coming 4-5 years. I mean EV's are already a big issue with maintenance cost.

I mean I am thankful my truck is under warranty but what if this sensor breaks in 15 years. Will toyota be able to affordably fix this or will this truck not be able to back in a trailer?

 

Follow Up for anyone who cared, probably not a lot of you. Got the sensors replaced from the dealership and did some testing when pulling out some stumps on my Dad's land.

The sensors did not slam on my brakes when hooked to a trailer, backed into a pond on a slope and it did not slam on brakes (trying to simulate my boat ramp issue). So it seems faulty parking sensors were why. I can now turn off the beeping with the button left of my steering wheel, AND I can go into dash settings (buried relatively deep) and turn off the automatic braking with parking sensors and it ACTUALLY works. My only complaint with the truck has been resolved and now I can start looking into mods to hopefully helep me enjoy the truck for the next 10-15 years.

 

good deal, now boost on and enjoy

 

Wife has a 22 4Runner for the same reason - she had a few other vehicles and had issues, and I said "Look, for what you want, just go buy a 4Runner already." She held out for a long time because "she didn't need an offroad vehicle" (lol) but I explained of her I wasn't suggesting it for the offroad capability but the dead simple layout and the rock solid reliability.

She drove one ONCE and was sold. Ordered a '22 4Runner Lunar Rock TRD Sport and has had it for 2 years, and absolutely loves it.

Funny thing is that I told her "You're not just buying a 4Runner. You're joining a community." She thought I was nuts...until she found herself waving to other female 4Runner owners, parking next to other 4Runners, etc.

 

All I got out of that is you need to learn how to use your truck. 70-80% of that is fixable with 1 finger from the drivers seat. The other 20% costs $40 thru Amazon with a Carista. Google is your friend

 

I feel like you didn't read this entire posts, which I don't blame because it was so long.

Even getting a 40$ product from Amazon did not fix my issue. I was able to use a different 60$ product and a few hours of my life to figure out the problem. A bad sensor. When I told my salesman about my issues with the trailer, he showed me the the 1 finger fix from the driver seat. It did not work. Service told me it was a software bug, and that it would be updated... AFTER they scanned my truck and said nothing was wrong with it.

After purchasing and OBD2-to-USB cable and a sketchily acquired piece of software that may or may not have been pirated, I was able to determine that a sensor was not working properly, but reporting bad. I told a service tech, who looked into it further (same guy from before) and he agreed that the sensor was reading incorrectly only when certain conditions were met (like backing a trailer or being close to a wall). He replaced the several hundred dollar sensor for free, under warranty.

Had this truck not been under warranty, and I would have spent a few grand for parts and labor, I would have been pissed. So please re-read this forum, and in the mean time I will "learn how to use my truck" by going above and beyond to learn shit I didn't think I would have to do to solve a problem on a truck.

 

I think y’all doing something wrong when hooking up trailers. I literally did not change any setting. Backed up slowly to the hitch. Hitched on/connected. Truck turned off appropriate sensors etc. drove my camper home backed in parked it. No brakes locking up. No beeping nothing.

 

I did the same thing, but I use a 4 pin not a 7 pin. I manually turned off the correct sensors, but even though my truck told me they are off, they were still on, and still doing their function of being annoying as shit.

So broken sensor = not working as intended.

I go to dealership and tell them sensor no work. They say it do work. I spend lots of time ordering a cable and pirate some software. I test the sensors output when they are turned off, and see they change values. This means sensor still on when sensor supposed to be off.

I take back to dealer, they confirm that even though sensor reports that it is healthy, it is not supposed to be on when it is turned off. They order replacement. They install replacement, all better now. Stuff works.

Imagine you bought a home and the light switch to your master bedroom did not turn off your light. The connection was good but the switch was incapable of being off. That is essentially what happened here, except the dealer told me the sensor was healthy because it said that it was off on the computer, without actually being off.

 

I don't like poorly implemented technology such as shutting off the engine when opening a door after remote start....

 

So this one I can understand because I used to be a porter at a big multi-lot car dealership, and we had some guys figure out how to grab the signal from some nissans to remote start, and used it to steal the cars after hours without needing keys. I mean technology has gotten better but all the companies have some system to make it to where your car does a double/triple check that you have your key fob before it will let you start the car.

So for the Tundra it does a rolling code for doors to open, and a rolling code to check when pust to start is engaged. You need one rolling code to initiate the other, so the car probably has to shut off to reset the code on the truck, not the fob. Slight inconvenience for security, and I am willing to bet that it is more a legal requirement than poor programming. Car thefts have been going up like crazy last 3-4 years.