Increase towing capacity by upgrading rear suspension and brakes?

Never said you did. My examples are generic but convey the consequences of what happens when weight design limits are exceeded which is where this thread headed.

 

I live out in the back woods and took back roads where I could. There is a 4 km stretch of two lane Hwy where speed limit is 90 kph and passing is an option. We’re getting into the weeds a bit…

 

So this leads me to another part of it, there is not a single person who lives in a rural area that does truck stuff with a truck that hasn’t loaded that sucker up with a sketchy load, drove slow and took backroads. ( as long as secure) And if you haven’t well good for you, you might be missing out a bit. I think that’s part of having a truck sometimes. I see that and go working with what ya have, getting it done!

but go do that stupid shit on a free way like the scrappers I see up in the cities or a tundra pulling a 5ver and I think F that guy get off the road you dumbass. I don’t know, not sure what I’m trying to say

 

Hey… did anyone notice the latest gen Tundra doesn’t have tow hooks? What’s up with that?

 

Funny story. I live in Quebec about 40 mins from downtown Ottawa, ON. The roads in Quebec are notoriously bad compared to those in Ontario. A buddy was pulling a dual axel trailer with his JDM 80 Series diesel Land Cruiser. On the trailer he had a spare JDM Diesel engine. Had no issues with it being secure while driving in Ontario. Literally, as soon as he crossed the river into Quebec, he hit some pot holes, and the engine came loose. Luckily he was paying attention, saw what happened and immediately pulled over. I’ve had the same issue multiple times when crossing back into Quebec with stuff on my trailer including a 5.3/4L60E combo in previously mentioned trailer. Had no issues all the way back from Toronto, but as soon as crossed into La Belle Province, had to stop multiple times to tightening things back up.

 

Here's a great example of what I'm talking about. What do you payload absolutists think about this guy's setup? Found it on a FB group.

He's within TWR and GCWR and both GAWRs but a few hundred lb over GVWR. This is not a problem IMO (and apparently in the state of Utah's opinion, too ). Would it be easier with a diesel F350? Of course.

I would have no problem pulling this trailer with my truck being less than 300 lb over GVWR but within axle ratings. Granted, it would not be fun in high winds or on long grades.

Top left: truck with all occupants and a full tank of fuel, no trailer.
Top right: ...with trailer, no WDH (note: rear axle overloaded here)
Bottom left: ...with trailer, with WDH (neither axle overloaded)

 

One number is missing, the tongue weight, this one is often ignored (truck on the scale, trailer attached out of the scale) just by looking at the figures as it doesn't say if trailer is loaded, it could be between 1000 and 1250, there is not much left for the passengers and an empty bed if the truck's sticker is around the 1350 average!

 

The post I got that from said all occupants are in the truck for all 3 weigh-ins, the gas tank is full, and the trailer is loaded.
He wanted to know what his numbers were fully loaded. Pointless to do it any other way.

 

Is that a double cab? My crewmax is right around 7k lbs with me in it according to the scale at the dump.

Also, I wouldn’t take the state of Utah’s word on anything. These are the same people that think polygamy is a good idea. Anyone that thinks more than one wife is a good idea has clearly never been married or at the very least never had more than one woman at a time.


If you have a problem with one woman, don’t get another. That causes an exponential increase in problems.

 

That’s crazy. Your crewmax’s GVWR is 7200, and your payload sticker is probably 1100-1300 lb. Assuming you weigh <200 lb, you have 900-1100+ lb of extra stuff? Or is that 7k before you dumped?

My crewmax is 6400 with me in it and a full tank of fuel. I have a retractable aluminum bed cover, 2nd battery, heavier tires but slightly lighter BBS wheels, and aluminum skids. My RAS probably adds 40 lb.

His double cab is 6460 fueled up with him and his wife in it according to the first CAT sticker. He must have other mods on the truck as well.

 

I’m under 200lbs. I have amp running boards, the Toyota branded bed cover, spray in bed liner, 33” 10ply tires, spider trax spacers, NSV lightbar, the steel underseat storage, a bed extender, the console safe, fender flairs, and I keep various straps, a small compressor and some hand tools and such. The gel battery adds a bit too I’m sure. I never imagined it would be 500-1000 lbs worth of crap. The payload is 1185

That said, who knows how accurate that scale is…. Either way, the payload on these trucks is a sad affair. I miss the little tiny 1ton Toyota trucks.

 

Yes indeed. The payload in my 97 LX450 is listed as 648 kg (1,425 lbs). Vehicle curb weight is 2,255 kg (4,961 lbs).
My buddies 14 FJ Cruiser is listed with a payload of 568 kg (1,249 lbs). Curb weight is around 1,900 kg (4,180 lbs).

 

I have NEVER read my payload lol. Common sense prevails generally. Would a long bed have anymore payload than a 5.5 or 6.5 ft bed?

 

that depends. If there’s less cabin space to make way for more bed then generally yes as the truck itself is lighter increasing the distance between the curb weight and maximum payload.

 

But what are the maximum GVWR’s to correlate those numbers?

 

That scale is dead on accurate or they can’t use it to charge you money. It’s regulated by weights and measures / commerce dept of your state.

 

Cabs are the same though. 8ft bed. As I recall my 08DCLB has a different frame than a friends 08 DC with 6.5 ft

 

They're obviously 6386 lbs and 5429 lbs, respectively.

 

Accuracy is less important than precision in this case.

One would hope. Though, its accuracy is less important than its precision as it may not be accurate from the get go, but could be precise about the difference between loaded and unloaded. Either way my truck, like its owner, might need to go on a diet.

 

Too bad he did not check the tongue weight at the scale station