I may have ding dong'd my wheel and tire buy

I am hoping someone can give me some comforting news. I recently purchased 20X10 Wheels with a -24 offset and a set of 35X12.5 tires for my 2008 Toyota Tundra Double Cab 4X4 base model with a RC 3.5 Lift.

When putting these on I was expecting some possible rub on the front liner but that is not what the issue is. The issue is it hit hitting the bumper! So I am looking for some consultation and options.

1. The bumper is the chrome one - so cutting it seems a bit much unless someone has some ideas.
2. Will an aftermarket off road bumper rid me of this issue or will there still be some rub?

If there are any Tundra folks out there who have or are in the process of a similar situation, I'd be interested in what you did to correct or other potential options.

Thanks Tundra Forum!

 

you might want to consider a bumper spacer. Coachbuilder makes one... just a thought

 

Thanks. I will check that out. If any one has used these instead of cutting the bumper I'd be interested to know if it worked out.

 

Just give David a call. He will let you know how it works or even if it won't for you. I had the spacers with 295 70r18 +25 offset not sure how the 20's will work. I am on 37s now so a completely different setup

 

thanks again. Been researching these and seems like it might work. Certainly can try that before cutting chrome or getting an aftermarket off road bumper - which I am only assuming would allow for all the clearance one could need right? I think my miss was in the width of the wheel and tire. I really wanted more of an aggressive stance but not too loony just enough of a pounce look. Which it has with these but no use running them if they are going to rub into the fender and scare the crap out of me when they do.

 

The issue is 10" wide negative offset wheels. Can't believe that the front bumper is the only thing it's hitting. Surely it hits the wheel well by the firewall / cab mount. But trimming the front bumper is easy enough with some masking tape and a cutoff wheel. The shims may buy you enough space, but I'd be surprised. Any pics of your setup?

 

No pics yet. I had to put the stock wheels back on. kicking my self a bit for not taking some photos so I could share. I didn't notice any wheel well or back side rubbing but I need to double check. the 3.5 lift gets me something but I have had that for a while - its not enough alone. I am wondering if an off road bumper may be the best solution to give the clearance it needs in the front. I hope the cab isn't an issue but I will need to double check.

 

Talk about poke

I'd be very curious if CB bumper spacers get even close to giving enough clearance

 

you could also try a viper cut on your front bumper. looks really good.

 

The 10” wide wheels are not affecting it at all. It’s the -24 offset that’s the problem. The bumper shims may help a tiny bit but you will still need to cut the bumper. An offroad bumper will absolutely help the rub in the front. But you will still have major rubbing on the cab mount. You will need a very aggressive CMC. And if that doesn’t work, a cab mount relocation.

 

damn did not notice you have a minus 24 offset...

 

Oh brother. I really like the stance when they are on. Yes they stick out a bit - not so much that it looks like an indy car or hot wheels or something but certainly shows some leg. My plan has been a slow mod. I see all the awesome sexy tundras and list of mods folks have and all I can do is drool. So I am a total noob at this an appreciate the input. Sounds like an off road bumper will be one part and something I was intending to do but now the concern then is the cab mount relocation? I have not researched doing any of that to this point but sounds like I need to get to it.

 

You might get away with just a cab mount chop and not need the relocation but I think it’s going to be close. The reason you probably didn’t even notice it is because you couldn’t turn the wheel to full lock because of the front bumper. Lol you probably couldn’t even turn the wheel a quarter of the way. Is it too late to exchange the wheels? That really is going to be the easiest route.

 

Yeah I am going to call them tomorrow to discuss. I am hoping I can work something out with this situation. If I can exchange then I assume a -10 offset would eliminate the cab mount issue and potentially the rub. I'll see what they say if not I think I am stuck with finding solutions - as I don't think there is a market for these combos if or once they find out what I am.

 

Even a 0 has a decent poke and all the associated CMC/bumper issues. +25 is pretty standard in the 295/12.5 width range and even that can need a little trim sometimes

Remember stock on TRD OR/Pro is a +60. A -24 is over 3" difference

 

-24 poke, Yikes.

As others have said, you are going to have to do some major work to get them to fit without rub. Be prepared for major paint damage from rocks too.

I doubt any shop will take them back if they are installed.

Got a pic.

 

Yeah - tough lessons learned and hoping to find some solutions for sure. The tires are mounted on the rims but didn't see the road. I put the stocks back on when I saw the rub was a bit more than a plastic hair cut. I am hoping I can work something out but in the meantime I will be looking at some after market bumpers that will get me some clearance on the front and check some body shops on chops or relos. Once I have some pics I will upload to get some visual on the issue.

 

At least you're here now. Tons of info on just about everything you could imagine especially 1/2/2.5 gens

 

Here is my truck on stocks. 2008 - 18X8 wheels and 275's. Alot to do yet. I have a RC 3.5 Lift and the Dirty Deeds Muffler on it so far. Was hoping to do the tires then window tint and flares then bumpers.

Here is the Front Driver clearance on stock wheels. I need to get the new ones on and take some photos to show the rub.



View of the backside/cab of the same side.

 

Ok so if anyone is looking for an aggressive stance and shopping for wheels and tires for their 2008 Tundra I have learned these things so far. Getting the looks you want with all the combos available it isn't plug and play. I really needed to do more research and hit this forum up beforehand.

I have found that:

1. A 3.5-inch lift isn't enough for negative offsets like -24 of -10 - or even 0. The most push you can get is apparently +10.
2. 33' tires with a bumper spacer or trimming may work on negative offsets.
3. If you buy tires and wheels and mount them, you are sol on returns. Even if you didn't put them on the road.
4. Offsets of -24 likely go to a 6"lift to not have to do a cab modification. I should've just done a 6" lift to begin with but being a noob, I didn't know. I think it's the sweet spot for most folks for looks.

There is an entire world of off roading I had no idea existed until this fopah. I won't be doing that but man it looks really cool! I do some minor mud stuff and snow is always fun. Don't really need mods for that though so it more of being a poser for looks. Mall roaders I think it's called. ha.


So now my situation is I have these really cool Moto's 20X10's with 35X12.5's mounted but the -24 offset that looked so good in all the wheel sites require some additional modifications.

Currently my options are the following:

1. Ebay the Wheels and Tires and start from scratch. I would take a loss on the package of I am guessing 700 to 1000 bucks to make worth someone picking them up. Which sucks.

2. Get a high clearance bumper for 600 -1000. This would clear up the front bumper rub. Adds some off-road look to the truck which is cool. And a mod I was looking to do at some point anyway just wanted to save before having to do so. Looking at this one - https://www.hookeroad.com/collectio...kid-plate-for-2007-2013-toyota-tundra-bxg5204

3. Add bumper shims or spacers and attempt to chop the front chrome bumper at a nice angle that allows for some room and then pull the liner back as much as possible. This is the cheapest route with shims at 70.00 or simply getting some washers or bolts at Home Depot to push the bumper out a 1/2 inch which won't be enough, you still need to cut the bumper.


Here is an image of the bumper I am looking at on tundra. Looks like plenty o clearance. Once I pick my tires back up I will get a photo uploaded for a visual of the rub.

 

Sorry you are going to take a hit.... this forum is truly a wealth of Knowledge that comes from experiences others have had and share with the group.

 

yeah, thanks. I can't be mad. I ding dong'd the whole thing. I am hoping to make some lemonade out of it on a budget. I should have just come to the forum and asked. "hey -24 offset wheels - anyone running them" and then got a better idea of what they did.

 

did you find the wheels and tires threads on here yet

 

Your best bet is likely starting over. But plenty of determined folks have made whatever they wanted to work, work. That wheel setup reminds me of the Hawaiian Tundras. Medium lift, maximum stance. If that’s your goal, research what those guys are doing.

 

Ok picked my tires back up from the dealership and here is a little photo comparison. These tires actually eat the stock 275's I have on. You can sort of see them behind these monsters. They do actually fit in the wheel wells as I did have them on - it's just the turning radius in minimal before you hit bumper.

 

I only did the search option on the site - so many posts and I was looking specifically for -24 offsets. A lot more to read up on. As one of you shared it may be a lot like the Hawaii style. This a photo of apparently the same wheel and tire package - issue is they don't really share what all they do to get them to fit without rubbing.

 

You can still use the tires and just sell the wheels.

 

Yeah- your right I see I didn't list that as an option. Not sure who would want a great deal on -24 offsets. If they do sell it would be cheaper hit on this fiasco I got going. I am seriously thinking I am going to just find some funds for a high clearance bumper if the cab piece doesn't require anything major. If I got to cut into the frame or something I am tapping out and calling uncle. Going to a 6" lift might be needed. If it takes all that to fit these monsters I will be waiting a bit. Ugg

 

Less about the lift, more about the wheel well clearance.

 

With the sizes and offsets and the look you’re going for, a cab mount chop is almost definitely in your future. Are you handy with a grinder? All you have to do is cut off a bit by the cab mount. Like this.


Then just remove your front bumper and you’ll have a definitive answer whether they’ll fit with a new bumper. Once you’re all set you can have someone weld in the cab mount plate when you’re done.