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Front suspension question

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Aaol1, Oct 30, 2023.

  1. Oct 30, 2023 at 3:26 PM
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    Aaol1

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    Alright so finally bolted everything up to my front suspension, everything torqued to factory specs under weight, here's the parts:

    SPC uppers
    Mevotech supreme Lowers ( yes I know)
    Eibach pro truck shock, set on second highest clip
    Stock spring ( I think it's stock, no labels or anything)
    New OEM cam sleeves

    When I torqued down everything and lowered truck back to the ground, front looked about level with the rear, which is about a 2 inch lift front .

    Went for a drive around the neighborhood.

    Came back, parked and looked, and oh damn. The front was WAY down , wheels had a significant negative camber ( top of wheel was tucked in). Right away I jacked up truck on jack stands and haven't touched it again today ran out of time. Once jacked up, wheels went back to being straight

    Everything is new and torqued to spec appropriately, except for the springs, which I reused. Truck had a 2 inch spacer lift before this, spacer is gone now.

    The only thing I think would be the springs causing this? Like maybe super old springs or something? What else would suddenly make the truck droop like that after a short ride around... Heck the shocks are even set at second highest clips

    Thoughts?

    Also, do you set alignment with wheels in the air? I just want a rough alignment for now , I've got an appointment booked for a proper one
     
  2. Oct 30, 2023 at 3:46 PM
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    w666

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    Don't torque anything until the wheels are on the ground, otherwise the new bushings will fail prematurely.
     
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  3. Oct 30, 2023 at 3:49 PM
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    Yep that's what I wrote, torqued with vehicle on its own weight
     
  4. Oct 30, 2023 at 3:55 PM
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    Rough alignment with wheels on ground, never in air.
     
  5. Oct 30, 2023 at 3:58 PM
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    Kk, under full vehicle weight?
     
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    Yep, you do the rough measurement with it on the ground before you lift and re-tweak it and only moderately tighten it to hold.
     
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    Fair enough. What about the suspension massively dropping after a test drive? Old springs?
     
  8. Oct 30, 2023 at 4:07 PM
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    Yeah, I’m not sure what to do there. I expect it to drop but not massively.
     
  9. Oct 30, 2023 at 7:25 PM
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    I can't explain that radical of a suspension change. But the camber, could be explained if the SPC balljoint slid in its slot because the top nut wasn't tight enough when you dropped the truck. Or you didn't get the rectangular star bracket seated in the slot under the arm flushly, and it dropped in, allowing the UBJ nut to loosen when the rectangular bit dropped in the slot.
     
  10. Oct 30, 2023 at 7:29 PM
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    Yea it didn't slide, I double checked. I also aligned with wheels off the ground. I have a set of new OME 885 sitting here, I think I'll swap those with stock springs and go from there. I lost like 2 inches of lift , it seems whatever spring I have is super weak, I just can't think of any reason as to why it settled so much
     
  11. Oct 30, 2023 at 7:37 PM
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    Ah, I missed the stock/mystery spring info. I thought I saw something about a 700lb spring. Weird.

    Yeah, that 2885, if compatible with the Eibach strut, with Eibach set at lowest (least compression) setting should get you back up again.
     
  12. Oct 30, 2023 at 7:38 PM
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    Yea the eibachs are pretty much 5100's valved differently, definitely lowest clip. That's what I'm thinking as well, hopefully I can figure out the alignment thing as well, I think once it will be lifted it shouldn't be a huge deal
     
  13. Oct 30, 2023 at 7:58 PM
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    I mean, if the truck was aligned on the ground, and camber looked fine, but it settled 2" on maiden voyage, that's probably enough settle to notice camber change.
     
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    Pics of the setup? Might be easier to point out the issue.. But weird, nonetheless..
     
  15. Oct 30, 2023 at 8:08 PM
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    Yea I'm thinking the hardcore settling is what did it, the cam tabs didn't shift, nothing broke, uppers didn't shift for camber adjustment ( or caster plate obviously) , literally nothing changed except for the spring compressing a shit ton.

    PXL_20231027_210911518.jpg
     
  16. Oct 30, 2023 at 8:10 PM
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    This pic is with truck still on stands. Spring is way more compressed after a short drive, no pics though sorry.
     

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