LANE KEEP ASSIST/Centering - do you use it?

Does it work well in your Gen3?

 

The Active radar Cruise control on my 23 Tundra works significantly better than my wife 2015 Toyota Highlander. They are certainly making improvements to it and I use mine all the time. I also use and like the LTA system. I like the vibration in the steering wheel as an attention getter and even the turn of the wheel to recenter the truck is not intrusive (to me). My wife's car is annoying and I never use it. Instead of the wheel vibration it gave a loud chirping noise which immediately gets my wife's attention and a quick look in my direction. LOL. Toyota is improving these systems with each consecutive generation of vehicle I think. IMHO

 

I just got back from a 1300 mile trip from Colorado to Missouri. I did use Lane Centering to eat a Subway sandwich at one point. I just kept my knee in contact with the wheel, which allowed me to use both hands on the sandwich. It worked OK for that, but it still ping ponged annoyingly. I shut it off as soon as I finished my meal. That's about the only scenario that I envision using Lane Centering.

I love the adaptive cruise control, on the other hand. I'm especially impressed with how well it works in stop and go traffic, as long as other cars don't cut too close in front of you. It does brake a little harder than I like, but it 's not horrible.

Matt

 

I've owned 2 Gen 3's over the past 2years.
2022 Tun Limited TRD-OR DC 4x4 (build 12.11.21)
when using the Lane Centering, it worked OK
2023 Tun Plat HV Adv Pkg CM 4x4 (build 12.05.22) [Edit - this is the hybrid]
when using the Lane Centering it ping ponged - I'll have to check make sure LC is on per Squirt, oh wait, it was Sport... Girls hate being called Squirt.

Adaptive cruise is a nice feature, I also notice in the 2022 when it pulls up in traffic it stops, traffic takes off and so does the 2022.

Adaptive cruise in the 2023 when it pulls up in traffic it stops, traffic takes off and it prompts me to hit accelerator pedal or the resume button. Odd it would be different.

 

You have a 3 minute timer when you stop - if it's before the 3 minutes is up(I've seen it be less, but ...) , you will take off, if not, just hit the resume or accelerator pedal. My Audi works the same as this.

 

My 2023 adaptive cruise control works like your 2022. If traffic stops in front, it stops. When traffic begins moving, it begins moving. I got stuck in about an hour of stop and go traffic in Kansas City due to an accident. I never touched the brake or accelerator that whole time. When I got past the accident and had a clear lane ahead of me, it accelerated right back up to the set speed. I thought that was pretty cool.

 

My lane centering works ok, sometimes it will "ping pong" depending on how good the lines are in the road. I want to like it, but sometimes have to turn it off. I hope it gets updated through software to work better.

 

Have any of you who have given Lane Centering an honest test found that adjusting the sensitivity has any affect? Mine doesn't seem to have any noticeable affect. It ping pongs the same in both sensitivity settings.

 

The sensitivity makes zero difference as near as I can tell.
You're more bullish on the adaptive cruise than I am too. I think it needs some serious "smoothing".
In the end, I've got the technology in other cars where it works well and I still don't use it. Just puzzling to me why in practice Toyota's is lacking. This really isn't "new" stuff anymore.

 

I agree 100%. I expected Toyota's implementation to be state of the art on 3rd Gen Tundras. It is far from that, IMO.

It's not a deal breaker for me. I'm still enjoying my new truck, but it is a disappointment.

Matt

 

If they made a trim level without 90% of the "tech" but still the 14" screen and all the cameras that's the one I would buy. Never use cruise even the low tech version because I'm usually dodging people going the speed limit in the left lane and the lane keep assist will never be smarter than me.

 

You expect Toyota to design the system to pass on the right? You know that's illegals in most states?

 

Hell no I don't want another system that thinks it can drive and make decisions for me. I want less of those and a snow plow attachment that gently moves people out of my way. It's also illegal in many states to drive in the left lane and go slower than other traffic.

 

I would LOVE to use this system more on road trips. But the more I try it the more I realize how bad Toyota's implementation is. I recall one of the first posts in this thread... it drives like a drunken sailor. And I ought to know since I was one of those once upon a time.

 

what state do you live?

 

. True in Tx

 

Arizona…

 

The left lane has always been for passing. Particularly for emergency vehicles. That's common sense and driving 101. It shouldn't need to be a law. But, it is a law and many states feel the need to bring it up quite often. They even have signs posted all over the road. Yes, they need to remind people of common sense. With signs. Things that you shouldn't have to be told. Things that, if you didn't already know, you shouldn't have been given a drivers license.

 

If only LEO's would enforce the law - It is illegal in Alabama for people to drive in the left lane without passing, but it is not enforced.

 

Driver test: what's 5+5?
Driver: 8?
You passed! Here's yer license. Go buy cars!

 

Unfortunately it's not that simple. Sometimes the left lane is not just for passing.
During rush hour traffic for instance, it is permissible to use the left lane like any other lane. So, it becomes a bit of a gray area trying to determine where that line is between normal free flow traffic (Level of service A & B) and rush hour traffic (LOS C, D & E). LOS C can actually be in considered free flow, or at least stable flow. 99.9% of road users would give you a blank stare if you tell them they have to get out of the left lane as soon as you hit a certain LOS.

 

In most states it is now law, but it is difficult to enforce, because the offender can claim that he was passing another vehicle. Only when they are the only vehicle in the vicinity they can't claim that, and at that point it doesn't matter which lane they use. If there is another vehicle in the right lane doing 69 MPH and the offender is using the left lane at 70 MPH he can still claim that he was overtaking a slower vehicle.

 

I have watched LE vehicles pull up behind someone putzing along in the left lane at or below the speed limit, with many opportunities to GTFO of the way, but instead slowed down, because there was a LE vehicle behind them. So, not only are they too stupid to get out of the way,.....they slowed down and got more in the way!
I've actually seen this many times.
So, are the basics of driving really gray, or complicated? Or are most people just self-absorbed and/or oblivious? Not to mention, just generally not physically coordinated enough to be operating a 2-3 ton machine at highway speeds.
I guess the answer is to widen all the roads and make the vehicles 100% autonomous.

 

I do agree that it would be difficult to enforce. They would have to constantly be on the road, driving, running into these people. And then have the time to actually pull them over.

 

It really wouldn't be difficult. Troopers are always on the road. That's what they do. I see them all the time. I also see left lane offenders all the time. Much like you can enforce people using a turning lane as a merging lane (one of my biggest annoyances). Worse yet when someone is in the turning lane without a turn signal. Are you turning like you're supposed to? Are you merging? Everyone on the road needs to know your intentions! Or turning into the wrong lane without reason. If I can get my pickup turned sharp enough to turn into the nearest lane so can your Corolla. Driving is a bunch of simple concepts. Some are simply too dumb, some are just too inconsiderate, some are distracted, and some are all the above.

If I was in charge of giving out driver licenses then we'd have half the vehicles on the road. Well... I suppose the half that gets their license taken away would still be driving, just illegally.

I honk a lot.

 

I live in a retire state with nothing but old folks and house wives who doesn’t understand that law. They block the left lane coming from shopping. These folks have nowhere to go and all day to get there. They go below speed limit and stay on their phones.

 

I'm pretty sure you can change the Lane Centering warning to vibrate the wheel, instead of chirping. IIRC, it's in the LTA sub-menu in Settings on the MID.

Matt

 

You can turn the chirping off. I have mine turned off and only the vibrate on.
I agree the chirping gets really annoying.

 

I drove 1600 miles mon/tues and most of it on 95, where long stretches were straight, and tried the lane centering. nope... still playing Pong ... I figured out the best way for them to fix this, is to take all the adjustments on a rolling average for the most recent and upcoming, say 200' and average that... to smooth out that steering wheel from wanting to play Pong...

 

Could one of ya'll seeing the ping ponging please post a video of your dashboard while you are seeing the ping ponging?
Just a reminder for the umpteenth time, LTA with Steering Assist aka Lane Keeping and Lane Centering are not the same mode.

LTA with Steering Assist will ping pong. Lane Centering does not do that when engaged within its published capabilities on a relatively straight road with a good lane markers.


This is LTA with Steeting Assist aka Lane Keeping


This is Lane Centering