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Alpine ILX-F511. Game Changer

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by running214, Mar 2, 2023.

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    Good news in the Kenwood. I had one projected to arrive on September 1st and one on the 5th. Both are showing they are ready to be shipped out by FedEx.:thumbsup:
     
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  2. Aug 15, 2023 at 5:02 PM
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  3. Aug 15, 2023 at 5:04 PM
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    One of my 2 9" showed up today. Second one went from delayed/pending to shipping but 2 weeks out.
    Not sure if I will ever get that one, we shall see.
     
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    Sigh.... Now I am gonna have to do this for the clout :D. I have one of those mini Nintendo things, gonna have to check and see if they are 5 or 12v dc.
    Already have the Firestick, just gotta get an HDMI cable to a good spot.
    If the head unit has an IR receiver I could throw an HDMI switch and a universal remote in the truck.
     
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    Stupid question. I've installed many systems, but most were before the advent of 5 channel amps where I ran RCAs to a seperate crossover and then to 2 amps to sub and other speakers. Only experience with a 5 channel is current set-up using speaker level input ( L and R) to an amp with built in crossovers for all 3 (L, R, and sub). So, do I just run 2 sets of RCAs to the amp and let it do its magic or do I run 3 sets and plug into the F, R, and sub inputs. Or does it not matter.

    And yes, I know I sound like an idiot.
     
  6. Aug 15, 2023 at 5:44 PM
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    I’d run discrete patches per channel. This way fader, balance and sub (also known as non-fader) can be level set/time aligned independently from the head unit’s interface.
     
  7. Aug 15, 2023 at 5:53 PM
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    While I know the basics, I'm not as stereo edumicated as you are kind sir. I do have a bass knob set up if that helps, and I really hate fine detailed tuning cause I'm just an old metal head that can't hear as well as before and have tinnitus from loud music that I'm doing my best to make worse. So, I'm guessing you mean I should run 3 RCAs? :headbang: :fistbump:
     
  8. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:01 PM
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    Run 6 channels
     
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    Yes, run 3 sets of RCAs
     
  10. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:02 PM
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    You will gain control of bass front rear that way. It will help the metal sound better. Ur neighbors will appreciate it
     
  11. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:03 PM
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    I went from speaker line level (white noise hiss) to 3 Chan of RCA and it made a huge difference
     
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    From a 5 channel amp? I'm not drunk enough to be able to figure that out.
     
  13. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:06 PM
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    6 channels is 3 pair

    1st pair
    Front
    2nd pair
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    =6 channels
     
  14. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    Your sub channel technically has 2 inputs but is mono
     
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    The last channel on the amp is sub and will combine left and right of channels 5/6
     
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    Sub output is a mono signal but most amplifiers benefit from the summing of “L+R” at the amplifier’s input
     
  17. Aug 15, 2023 at 6:08 PM
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    For quality amps it should be +3 db
     
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    eh, I wouldn’t necessarily equate it that way. More like “doubling” the input voltage received by the pre-amp and enabling better Gain structure. This assumes that L/R are in perfect electrical phase.
     
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    This is making my brain hurt, which admittedly, isn't that difficult to do.
     
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    Yeah it’s definitely not the same as doubling components. You do definitively gain something from both LR channels being combined I guess the mix will determine that.
     
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    So, if my drunken ass is reading correctly, I need to order 3 sets of RCAs.
     
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    That’s what I used ^^^
     
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    @Azblue what amplifier are you running?
     
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