TRD Pro Alignment

Subtle difference but the best way I can describe it is 0 camber with higher caster felt more truck like and neg camber with slightly reduced caster felt more car like and agile.

 

Very helpful. Thank you.

 

Hey All,

I joined this forum just to discuss this issue. I have a 2022 Tundra TRD Pro. I had to completly replace my tires at 14k miles. Here is a picture of my stock tires before the replacement.
I noticed some extra wearing on the edges of my front tires about 5k miles after I bought this truck. I also felt like the steering was a little off. I brought back to dealer and they said alignment was fine and it was normal wear and tear. I also brought it back to dealer around 12k miles to look at truck again with alignment. Once again they said it was within normal range. I took my truck to go camping in Idaho recently I noticed the tires were now worn down to the threads. No joke the threads. I took my truck to a national tire place and they told me my truck was out of alignment and that the tires were only 4 ply and not rated for this type of truck. I have since contacted my dealer and toyota with no solutions to the problem. I had to buy new tires and pay for a new alignment on my truck. This truck is way too expensive to have these types of issues. You can also see numerous videos online describing the exact same problem. I WOULD RECOMMEND BUYING NEW 10 PLY TIRES THAT ARE RATED FOR THIS TRUCK AND GETTING A PROFESSIONAL SHOP TO ALIGN STEERING PROPERLY.

 

I sent you a DM. Time to call corporate. Dealer should have your back, if not find a new one

 

I feel your pain my friend. While I do not have the severe wear that you have, mine are wearing too. My dealer told me to call corporate. Corporate said I have to call the tire mfgr. I tried to reason with them and understand how a tire company would be responsible for bad alignment and Toyota putting substandard tires on the truck. If the tire is not defective, it is not their problem. That did no good. My issue was escalated to a “senior customer advocate,” who said the same thing the customer advocate said. Somehow I do not feel they were advocating for me….LOL.

 

Does anyone have the latest updated alignment specs from Toyota for the PRO? Mine should be here in a couple weeks and the first thing I plan on doing is verifying the alignment with an independent shop with Hunter Engineering equipment. Thanks

 

The latest toyota specs are the same since the last update by Ryan. You need to show the shop the Wescott alignment video. The goal is to get the caster as high as they can in order to get the camber below 0.4. Close to zero as possible is what seems to work.

 

Just took my 23 in, with only 3k on the odometer. I see wear on my outer edges. The dealer says this is fine, and there is no wear. Any opinions on these specs?

 

You need to go to a shop that will do a custom alignment. Tell them upfront you want the camber under 0.5. Otherwise you’ll wear out your tires in 10-15k

 

Curious if this is happening in other models? I have a 23 Limited with 20” OEM wheels and Bridgestone duelers. Around 4k miles I started noticing vibrations coming from the front of the truck. Took it in for a balance several times and that didn’t resolve the issue. I took a look at all tires, backs looked brand new. Front starting to show wear on the outer edge of tires. I want to think this is where the vibrations come from, I don’t have steering issues or pulling one direction. I assume it’s a camber/caster issue? I first took it up with Bridgestone and they denied a replacement after seeing pics of the wear on outer edges. Claimed it was a bad alignment and to take it up with Toyota. Called corporate and they directed me to take it to the dealer for an alignment. I guess we will see what the dealer finds, but it seems most people say the dealer says it’s within spec?

this photo is around 5k miles, I have 5500 now and it’s even worse.

 

did you have them do anything special or did you just have them do their usual alignment?

 

They did their usual alignment. They are an aftermarket wheel/tire/lift shop. 11k miles currently and zero abnormal wear with 5k tire rotations.

 

Got the tires on. Alignment shop got camber to 0.5.

 

Hey y'all. New to this thread and I apologize if I haven't read all of the posts. Purchased a 2023 last December. At 10K tires were cupped/chopped. So, I filed a case with Toyota North America, and they've now replaced the tires twice. Reset to factory alignment, and have had a regional tech inspect it. Today I get a call from the case manager, and she stated, "all is fixed, etc." Well, that's quite contrary to the dealership which has actually been very supportive. Unfortunately, I'm going to probably get an attorney involved at this point because they've stated that it's a KNOWN issue in this model. I've seen four other identical trucks in parking lots and they all have front and rear pigeon-toed alignment. I'm putting this all out here to state that if you haven't been persistent with Toyota, then get on it! Also, I've seen some posts on this thread stating, I'm going to take it to the after-market alignment joint BEWARE. Toyota could void any further warranty on this issue, and blame it on a non-OEM entity. Just an update from a dude who leaned in and bought an approximately $80k truck that only has 14k miles on it, only for it to look like it's becoming a lemon law issue, at least here in TX. RG

 

Hi all,
This is my second attempt at setting the correct alignment. On Friday, I provided the Westcott alignment specs. Since new I have been running 295 70 18 Wildpeaks and started to notice slight wear on passenger outer side tread after taking it back for the second attempt. Thoughts on new numbers?

 

I have a 2022 TRD Pro that I love except for the excessive tire wear and blowout I experienced at 15K miles. I taken it to the dealer and made an appointment for today. They told me they need the truck for 2 weeks to deal with the issue. I called BS on that. Will post an update once I'm into the process. BTW I also bought the bumper to bumper extended warranty when I purchased the truck.

 

So the tire on your TRD PRO blew out on the road?

 

For all you guys losing your minds over this, a lot of the 2.5 gen’s have the same problem, including me. This isn’t a new issue The aftermarket alignment helped A LOT.

 

The only thing I lost is 2 cylinder

 

Cylinders are like fingers. Sure, you want ALL of them but just look how many spares you have!

 

So my dealer, Toyota de Aguadilla, in Puerto Rico has acknowledged that my 2022 Tundra TRD Pro was delivered from the factory with improper alignment which has ruined my Falken Wild Peak tires at 17,000 miles. I have returned to the dealer on time for every inspection at 5K, 10K and 15K miles. Never once did the dealer acknowledge early tire wear due to alignment. I in fact brought it to their attention at my 15K service. Today after they canceled 2 previous appointments after I arrived at the dealer they told me they would perform the proper alignment but I would get no consideration for the early excessive tire wear due to the improper factory alignment. They also offered no loaner vehicle. This is really unfair and un-Toyota. For them not to accept at least pro-rated responsibility is money grubbing and short sighted. I won't be returning to purchase with Toyota in the future. New tires will be approximately $1600 for I truck I paid almost $80K for a little over a year ago. Very dissatisfied.

UPDATE:
So Monday of this week 11/13/23 I arrived for my alignment appointment. I was told it would take them 5 hours to do the alignment and I could pick the truck up in the afternoon. Again I was told no tire consideration and no loaner car. Once home, after denial of any tire replacement consideration I started researching the best AT tires for the truck and started making calls asking for quotes. I also posted the above story on this Toyota Tundra forum. Within 3 hours of making the post I received a call from the dealer stating that Toyota was now going to replace the tires for me, take care of the alignment and provide me with a loaner car. Since I was feeling that Toyota was doing right by me given the situation I took down the above post. I returned to the dealer in the afternoon and my service rep and my original sales rep said they would need my truck to finish the alignment until the next day and they would call me when it was ready. I picked up the loaner car and returned home. Yesterday Tuesday 11/14/23 after receiving no communication I called the service rep late afternoon as to picking up my truck. He told me that I could not pick it up and would have to wait until 8:00 or 9:00 AM this morning. That didn't make sense to me as the technicians don't even start work until 8:00 AM so there was nothing they would be doing but letting the truck sit over night. At 4:00 PM I received a call from someone identifying themself as being with Toyota. I have since determined this call came from the dealer based on the phone number. They told me that Toyota had reviewed the situation and they would only be willing to provide 2 new tires and since I already had 1 new tire on the truck that I would only need to pay for the other one. I did in fact have to replace one of the tires at my expense at 15K miles due to a blowout from worn tires. I told the individual that all 4 of the tires had worn out not just 2 and the good one on the truck I had paid over $400 for it. He repeated several times that Toyota was only willing to pay for 2 and I would need to purchase 1 more to go along with the one I had already purchased and was on the truck. He also informed me that the tires were on back order and they did not know when they would be available. This was after I had been told that Toyota US would be shipping me 4 new tires via FedEx or UPS. Then he told me that they had not done an alignment on my truck and could not do so until I had new tires. So in essence my truck has been sitting at the dealer's lot with nothing done to correct my problem and again I am feeling mislead. I am no alignment expert but in doing research online it seems that new tires are not required to perform an alignment. I told this individual that I need to pick up my truck as I could not work out of the Corolla loaner car and this was costing me money. He then said they would let me pick my truck up but I would need to sign a release indemnifying them from any liability with respect to driving the truck in its current condition. I asked the person for their name and phone number so I could follow up but they refused to provide either and told me I would need to go back through my service representative. At this point I have no faith in anything I am being told at the dealership as they keep changing what will be done and not giving me a straight story. So in essence I feel I have been misled for a situation that is clearly and admittedly Toyota's fault not mine. They are willing to burn a customer for a few hundred dollars and will only return my truck if I indemnify them. This customer service SUCKS.

2nd Update:
I returned to Toyota this morning to pick up my truck. In the course of waiting for my service representative another person drove up to the service area in an identical truck to mine (color and model). I glanced at his tires and noticed the wear. When he passed by I struck up a conversation with him and our stories are also practically identical. He too had worn out tires and had experienced a blowout as I did on the right front tire. He was also given the same solution of alignment, 2 tires but no loaner car. We have exchanged information and plan to take up a complaint with DACA the consumer protection agency here in Puerto Rico. It should be noted as I informed the service representative that their service department had rotated my tires as required by Toyota's maintenance schedule and therefore I have 4 ruined tires not 2. I was told that Toyota USA had made the decision to only provide 2 tires because the wear was primarily the result of the 2 tires on the front of the vehicle. However, when the tires are rotated all 4 tires spend time at the front end; don't you get that Toyota? I don't get how Toyota doesn't see this and accept responsibility for a problem they created. I have now been told that the replacement tires have been ordered through a tire shop that I had sourced and provided to them. I will be called when they arrive to install them them, align the truck and of course pay for the 2nd tire. Toyota USA you will not get gaining many new customers with similar short sighted business policies. As an FYI I love the truck other than this issue.

 

I have a 2023 Limited TRD-OR and started noticing light feathering of the outer tread on both front tires. Regular rotations per Toyota maintenance schedule just meant all four tires became affected.

After purchasing aftermarket wheels and tires I got an alignment at a well-respected indie shop that knows what they’re doing. Photo below shows the old and new alignment specs.

Interestingly my camber wasn’t nearly as positive as many have reported in this thread. And yet I still saw greater wear along the outside edges. I wonder if the toe contributed…

I’ve put about 2,000 miles on the truck since the alignment and tire wear appears even along each tread with no cupping or feathering. Handling is much more to my liking: stable, planted, better turn-in feel. No big surprise when you look at the numbers.

For those looking for ideas for new alignment specs, here’s where my truck landed. I’m still running factory TRD-OR suspension but with a 35 x 11.5 x 17 tire on a 17 x 8.5 wheel with +35 offset.

 

Here are today’s custom alignment measurements (3rd alignment!). I followed the recommendations of front camber down to 0, caster to 3.0-3.2ish and minimal toe. It feels way more responsive compared to the last settings. FYI I’m running 295 70/18 Wildpeaks. I also had tires rotated from RF to LR and LF to RR.
Thanks to FLKX!

 

I have a 2023 Pro that just hit 5K miles, same issue on front tires. Local dealer is not aware of a problem with alignment on pros but granted I am in a small town and there are not many on the road here.

My question is for the people who have upgraded to a 35" tire, or a tire other than the factory wildpeaks: Are you noticing uneven wear in the front on the new tires? From all the research I am doing, it seems like these factory wildpeaks are just crap tires. I haven't seen anyone who has upgraded their tire complain of the wear problem yet.

 

I have 35’s and can see the wear on the edges. I think the difference is that we have so much more tread and a harder compound compared to the Falkens it isn’t happening as fast. That and proper rotation is helping keep them straight.

 

That makes sense, thank you for your input!

 

I would recommend getting the alignment dialed in before you get new tires.