2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

My wife and I both WFH, and my truck is our "primary". I think we just cracked 2000 miles on her '22 T4R. But if the Ford ever craps out I guess I have that as a back-up.

 

2400 - like the amount of parts the ‘24 f150 is losing

 

We do too but we’ve been a OCF (one car family) for 4 years

 

You’re a 23 cars in 4 years family.

 

OK I confess, not only is a spare car useful but after parting with my Challenger RT I have a craving to put another muscle car in the driveway next to the truck in a few years after the truck and my wife's 50th birthday are paid off.

 

More like 60 ... how dare you lowball the Dr. !

 

I got a friend at work who'd go through a new car about every 6 months. As a gag we created a car calendar and were able to fill up most of a year with what he'd bought in the last 6-7 years

 

Read about 40 pages and couldn’t do it more…

Is the consensus the F-150 is a better truck out the gate with more concerns for long term reliability and resale?

I drove a 2.7V6 over the weekend and power seems on part with the Tundra 3.5, but I could not do a full aluminum body.

I find my Tundra very comfortable and I always find sitting in the driver’s seat in an F150 to be “awkward” in regards to pedal position and my elbow sitting on the door sill and holding the steering wheel.

Just curious what the summary is here.

 

You’ll get as many answers as there are posters. They are both good trucks, and either would serve you well. That 2.7 is a great engine. The Tundra is a 3.4L by the way.

Just curious, what don’t you like about the aluminum body? The weight savings is significant.

 

You’re right, 3.5 was a typo.

Yes the weight savings is significant which is why the 2.7ecoboost will keep up with the 3.4 Non-Hybrid tundra.

I can’t do aluminum with Oak trees on my property- the acorns will dent the aluminum like hail…found out the hard way on my Miata with an aluminum hood and trunk.

Plus aluminum is harder to repair from my research.

Either way, I’m happy with my purchase even though I was able to get employee pricing on an F150; just did a 1300 mile road trip in the tundra and it was fantastic.

 

As long as you’re happy with your truck that’s what matters!

 

I will say that I feel like my Powerboost received a more significant dent from a windy day shopping cart fiasco than a steel truck would have but I don't see things like Acorns doing body damage. I have already probably touched on this here but My take is when stuff happens that is borderline between no dent and tiny ding it shows no damage, but when stuff happens that is borderline between small ding and big dent it seems more prone to bigger dent. Maybe something to do with, as the difference has been described in body repair, steel wants to try to return to its original shape when deformed whereas aluminum has no tendency to do that. If my incident hadn't required paint I think it would have been more expensive than typical paintless dent repair on steel but not a huge amount.

But whatever

 

You waited until after you bought a new truck to ask which truck is better?

 

For me the aluminum was so wavy on the door panels also Doors were not aligned ,not even close and nothing they could do.

 

That’s like the 9th time you’ve mentioned it. I guess I don’t see it. Only wavy item I’ve ever seen is the glass lamination . Had it on a lot of my cars

 

New tundra very comfortable and new f150 seat is awkward?

 

I guess the cliff notes for anybody just now reading this thread is Tundra lovers are happy except for the ones that aren't and F150 owners are happy except for the ones that aren't. And the focus groups told Mike Sweers they need a transmission hump, And that only the Tacoma needs an inverter or tow hooks but in the half ton class that stuff is for Starbucks sipping pansies and poseurs who don't do real work.

Fords have 26,392 computer modules which all must be tested individually in alphabetical order with the help of Dearborn engineers to diagnose pretty much anything that goes wrong with the truck. Once they figure it out everything is on back order except brake pads and wiper blades.

 

I have the 2.7 V6 in my Bronco and its smooth and powerful. 18 mpg with 35's on the highway.

 

4x4 wiper blades or 4x2 wiper blades?

 

Great post! Pretty much sums it up.
I think the two of us learned about the 26,392 modules and backorder the hard way.
I'm really glad your F150 was remediated. My F150 was just a bad one but it's like getting food poisoning. I had bad scallops one time and it was hard for me to look at them for a while. I'm in that place with Ford's right now. Maybe someday I'll go back but for now I'm really enjoying my Tundra. A learning curve but zero issues and really well put together.

 

After 30 days, here's where I'm at on the Tundra vs the '22 F150:

Tundra Mileage is 20.3MPG on the highway at +5MPH over the speed limit.
18.3MPG since I bought the truck with lots of city. Almost exactly the same as the F150 3.5 Eco.

Miss the flat floor and fold up seat in the F150 although I'm using the storage bins more than I thought.
Miss the B column Keypad. Why doesn't everyone do that?

The F150 has a little more power out of the hole. Mox Nix at highway speeds.

Love the fit, finish and materials of the Tundra. Seams and stitching are perfect. Panel fit is perfect. Granted my F150 had be taken apart and put back together so many times that it was starting to not line up.

Ride of the Tundra with AVS and airbags is better. Zero hop or jiggles. Very sensitive to air pressure for reasons not clear to me.

Big surprise is the I really like the rear step which I thought was a stupid appendage compared to the gate step. I like it much better. The bed being slightly lower is a big help loading and I haul something almost everyday.

Drivability is really dialed in. Engine and 10 speed work perfect together. No frequent bang when it goes into reverse.
No wind noise, throttle delay or rattles. Tight as a drum.

The Tundra is more maneuverable. A common place I go was a 5pt turn is now a 3 pt turn. Better cameras in the Tundra but only marginally. I thought I would miss the bigger greenhouse in the F150 and I don't. In fact, I got the windshield and windows tinted which makes it even tighter.

The infotainment in the Tundra is a learning curve compared to a Ford F150. I think the F150 is more intuitive and easier to use. That said, once you get to know the Toyota there are a couple of things I really like. The ability to easily go from appleplay to the native "hey toyota" system and back is really nice. The "hey Toyota" voice prompts work really well and they do seem to get better and better at understanding. I did like the split screen in the F150 but if I want multiple things up at once I usually do apple play anyways. For me, I like the Toyota stack better but I'd give the nod to Ford because my wife gets in the Tundra and says WTF is all this stuff? She didn't say that about the Ford.

For me right now, if I had both trucks side by side, with both working properly, I think you can't make a bad choice but I'd go for the Tundra just because of the fit, finish and more clued in service org.

 

Tundra has worst in class turning radius by a good margin . I’m curious what vehicle was a 5pt and is now a 3pt lol

 

My sense of how turning radiuses have evolved is skewed going from an old Short wheel base pickup to a long wb brand new
one. I can say I now always go around the block rather than try tight u turns in traffic. And I have to keep the 360 cameras up and jump all curbs in these ridiculously tight 2 lane drive throughs Chik fil a has gone to here in their efforts to try to keep the line from backing up into the main road at peak hours.

I'd be pissed if any of this was needed with a 5.5 foot bed but have learned to live with it to get the extra foot. The camera systems have for me mitigated a good 90% of the drive-ability problems that used to cause me to avoid long wheel base crew cabs.

 

I will say tundras cameras are better than f150 . TRD pro has those side profile cameras I wish the raptor did

 

I own a 21 F150 Powerboost Platinum but I'm a Toyota/Lexus person at heart. I drove a 23 Tundra Platinum Hybrid last week and although I didn't spend a ton of time in it, I think this analysis is very accurate. I do get about 21.5 mpg mixed in the F150 Hybrid. I really like the F150, but I don't trust it out of warranty. Lots of little issues and the dealership techs seem to struggle with attention to detail whereas any of my prior Toyota trucks/suv's or Lexus vehicles were fixed the first time, although needing any fixes was extremely rare. I'm actively looking to make the move to the Tundra.

Ultimately, they are both very nice (but very different) trucks. I do believe that long-term, the Toyota is still built better by a decent margin, but I admit that's purely opinion.

 

I really want to drive a Tundra to get a sense of the driving experience even if I'm not fond of the interior packaging on paper and at a glance. Just to see what the intangibles do for me. The dealer I've done business with has a few now, but they put "please call" in the price slot for most of them. So who knows what games
They're playing now that they don't want Toyota to easily spot. Previously they were trying to do the markup thing when I hit them up and I told them if I went the Tundra route no way would I find that acceptable as a 2 time customer. But they never showed me a sticker for anything I liked so we never even reached the point where that had to be hashed out.

 

I was pleasantly surprised by the Tundra I drove. 23 Platinum (non AVS) with 10k miles vs. my 21 F150 Platinum with 22k miles. I thought the Tundra felt way tighter and sportier. The cabin glass feels smaller and more "cockpit" like vs. the F150, but I like that feel, more privacy. Having read countless articles on car sites and posts on this board, I feel the new Tundra has received a bit of an unfair reputation for not being good enough after all these years of the prior generation. I really liked how it drove and felt, but I know that's subjective.

 

Tenth time, look at the fender compared to the driver door body lines don't match. I guess the aluminum being thin and glued is not able to be as smooth vs a steel sheet.

Stop counting my post LMAO!
Look at the fender sticking out and how blurry the door reflection is - guess because the process of aluminum vs steel sheeting.
10th time your turn!
Now look at Toyota, good lines and smooth sheet metal.

 

I guess I can see slight. I thought it was body lines. Isn’t the tundra aluminum doors and fenders and hood?

 

Hmmm, news to me. I did a magnet test and it only stuck to the main cab, rear doors and front fenders. So the hood,front doors and bed are not steel. Fascinating as I was not aware of this.
Thanks !!