Can somebody smarter than me with speakers help me out

So I ordered some new kicker ks series component speakers for my double cab. And have no clue how to wire in my tweeters and mid range stuff. Can somebody help me out? Also where do I mount this box? I’m pretty well over my head. I guess if I have to, I’ll call crutchfield figured I’d try here first


Speakers look good at least

 

Check this post for more info on how and where I went with the crossover - see the red box on the door.

https://www.tundras.com/threads/touch-screen-head-unit-whos-got-what.65309/page-3#post-1808193

 

Oh and for wiring, I can't read what the left wire pair says. But I'm going to guess that left wiring pair goes from your factory harness into the input of the crossover box, and the MID and TWEETER wires are going from the MID and TWEETER port of the crossover to the midwoofer and your tweeter.

 

@shifty` you the man, I’ll study over that and see what I can figure out. I may have to have some more help if I go to splicing but we’ll see what happens.

those bundle of wires are input, tweeter, and mid btw

 

Input => Connects the crossover to the factory wire pair in the door, where it forks to the OEM mid/tweeter.
Tweeter => Connects the crossover to the tweeter.
Mid => Connects the crossover to the midwoofer

My truck basically had a pair of wires coming into the door bundle, which went to a white connector, which forked that single pair out into two pairs (one pair to tweeter, one pair to mids).

Crutchfield should've given you an adapter, I think, to replace that fork-off harness. In which case, you'd be taking their adapter, plugging it where the fork-out harness was, and feeding that pair into the INPUT of the crossover. I may have time to draw this up if needed.

Wish I was there, I'd drive up and help with wiring you up Got another 6 days before I'm home.

 

Here, this is how mine is, from another AC guy's truck, but the DC (and/or JBL) system may be different. You'll know.

Normally the Crutchfield adapter plugs in at the '1pair=>2pair' plug. That's what then feeds the crossover input.

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@shifty` i think I’m tracking, #1 is the adapter from crutchfield that plugs into oem speaker wiring. That #2 is the split you’re talking about. If I’m lookin at this right, I should be able too wire

purple pink from the lower unit to the input leg, blue green go to the mid leg and then plug and play on the tweeter???

go figure I can build wye and delta pot banks at work all day long but can’t wire up some speakers

 

I mean, it looks like that's what the instructions say, but they're also showing a 2-wire input (one pos, one neg) and that's not what you have there. I'm shocked they have you cutting wires, there's no adapter, but ... that's what it's showing.

Surely there must be a 4 wire adapter? But even if there is, given the crossover won't have multi-channel input (it has 2 wire input, not 4 wire input), I'd be curious how they'd say to deal with that situation. You may want to give them a buzz and ask about your specific install on this one with that in mind. Surely they won't have you bridging together two amplified (+) channels into one crossover input (+)?

 

Does the factory JBL amp have separate outputs for the woofer and tweeter?

The kicker crossover is meant for a vehicle that only has one pair of wires to a speaker and then splits the frequencies to each dedicated woofer/mid and tweeter.


If you have a non-oem amp then things are different and you'd wire one channel (two wires) to the input and then the other 2 pairs to each woofer/tweeter.


Do you have Nav? Rear seat entertainment? 6 or 8 speaker jbl? DC had several options.

 

@shifty` they sent 2 adapters that plug into the speaker and then back into the purple and pink wire.

@assassin10000 it’s a non jbl truck. I don’t have any of the logos on the speaker covers, no rear seat entertainment, and somebody swapped the radio before I got it

*I think I may have screwed up and need an amp to make this work like I need too. The truck doesn’t have that factory mid woofer like the jbl’s. Closet I’ve got is 2 outs to the tweeter unless crutchfield tells me to split them and wire up like I was talking about above.

 

Got a factory amp or not?






I'd continuity test, looks like the green & pink wires and the blue & violet are the same. Just split inside the loom.


If you look at connector #2 they share the same wire colors on the opposite side.

 

@assassin10000, no factory amp behind the radio but my head unit has one built in. I’m not thrilled I gotta do some splicing but it is what is

contacted tech support:

1. take the supplied adapters and cut the red ends off. These got to the input in the crossover then plug back into the purple pink wire.

2. Tweeters are plug and play already have their ends made up

3. The mids run down to the lower speakers in the door and get made up that way


Or that’s the best I can gather from chatting with this dude. Unless y’all see Something I missed. I’m a complete newbie when it comes to car audio. I’ve always paid to have it installed

 

Sounds correct.

Adapter plugs into OEM harness to preserve OEM wiring.

Adapter wires go to crossover input.

Crossover woofer/tweeter outputs go to tweeter and woofer respectively.

 

I would need to see what they gave you for adapters to be sure. It sounds like maybe they gave you two adapters for each door, each adapter has a white wire, a black wire, and a red wire and an orange wire?

My confusion is ultimately, you've got four wires - one pair intended to hit your tweeter, one pair intended to hit your woofer. I presume the original OEM system separated (or isolated) those channels initially and isn't just paralleling them at the amp or head unit, that would be a complete waste of wire to do anywhere other than in the door.

If I'm going by wiring colors I'm seeing, from Assassin's diagrams, you must have the 6spk system. Maybe Crutchfield is having you cut one wire off each adapter so you land with two wires, and route that into the crossover ... but if that's the case, and the OEM config is to wire each of those channels separately, you're losing a channel, I think?

I guess the trouble I'm having is visualizing how you're going from 2 pairs (4 input wires) are being adapted to feed a crossover with only 1 pair (2 input wires).

 

@shifty`i think the 6 speaker system might have been easier. But I just have the main speaker in the bottom of the door and the tweeter at the top of the door. Worst case the only damage I’ve done to the factory wiring so far is my tweeters.


*idk man this stuff is over my head, I’ve gotta get another soldering iron (can’t find mine) so I’ll know later today how it sounds

on the plus side I did get my tweeter mounts built. Whoever thought it was a good idea to glue the screw for that bracket to the tweeter needs to be slapped


That metal banding made a good spacer to tightening the screw up

 

I think you're missing the fact that the 6 speaker front door woofer/tweeter wiring shares the output. I think they split it off, inside the door harness, before it reaches the 4 pin connector.


If you look closely the 4 wires going into it share the same 2 colors:



His adapters only have a pair of wires, which means crutchfield is probably aware of the above.



So just 2 wires into the crossover needed. Leave the other connection loose/empty.

 

Shoutout to @shifty` and @assassin10000, thanks for working through this mess with me fellas.

Good news, it’s all together and sounds way better than stock. Everything’s wired, hit a little hiccup on re-assembled. Thought where I had the crossover mounted was gonna clear but it’s a no go. There was way more splicing involved with this kit than I was ever expecting. Good News is the rears should be way less dramatic



So the plug that’s circled and labeled 2 you cut it out and wire purple/pink to blue/green, the adapter from
Crutchfield plugs in to the oem end of the purple/pink. Then goes to the input of the crossover. Speakers in the lower door go to the mid output of the crossover. And the. Tweeter goes to the tweeter output. One thing I did was cut the speaker plugs from the adapter they sent long enough to make me some quick connects.


And the obligatory picture of my failure