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Spin-on oil filter for the 3rd gen??

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by rock01, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. Apr 25, 2023 at 4:32 AM
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    rock01

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    My 1st gen is a 4.7 old-school spin-on filter which I love. I always change my own oil so I immediately cut a hole in the skidplate and have been happy ever since. No big mess, no fuss, no special tools.

    I bought a 5.7 2nd gen in 2015 or so and it had the paper cartridge filter that required the special tool. I cut a hole in that skidplate as well but the paper filter was always an irritation as it seemed much messier. Also didn't take long before I mangled the stupid plastic cover but I read where I could order a metal one for a Lexus so I did that and that worked much better.

    We just bought a 2012 Corolla for my wife's daily driver last year and it, too, had the paper filter that calls for a special wrench. Of course the dealership over-torqued that one so I broke every tool (at least 5 from a strap wrench to a chain wrench to the special tool I used on the 2nd gen) I had in my shop getting that one off. Now I change it every 10k and haven't had many more problems but I assumed that every newer vehicle would be the frustrating paper cartridge filter that makes a mess everywhere.

    So what gives with the new twin turbo engine? Why did Toyota go back to the spin-on filter? Of all the things I am excited about in the 3rd generation this would be in my top 10.
     
  2. Apr 25, 2023 at 5:25 AM
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    Zebruaj

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    From what I've seen with the newer Toyota products, they are all going back to spin on canisters.
     
  3. Apr 25, 2023 at 5:26 AM
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    RichterScale

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    If I had to take a wild guess?
    Too many people "upgrading" and effing up the stand pipe. Too many dealership techs effing them up. Probably not worth constantly fighting with service shops and customers over dumb shit they did, that caused issues.
    There really wasn't anything "wrong" with the design, or the material. They probably figured life was easier for everyone if they went back to a more idiot resistant spin-on.
     
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  4. Apr 25, 2023 at 7:03 AM
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    Just changed the oil in my '22 and greatly appreciate the return to the spin on style! Much less frustrating experience compared to the 5.7 in our Sequoia. It was almost not even a chore to change oil on the new truck which is nice.
     
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  5. Apr 25, 2023 at 7:19 AM
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    What I really like is the little catch basin below the filter. Put a hose on it, run the hose down to the drain pan, unscrew the filter and watch that bit of oil that always spills run down into the pan - very clean. For those of us without a hoist, it is a good bit of engineering.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2023 at 7:25 AM
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    Yep, very similar to the 2nd Gen Tacoma. Glad to see that come back. I just shoved a bottle up in there to catch it. The tacoma actually had a tiny little cap for the nipple so the last little drops wouldn't drip out after you were done.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2023 at 7:28 AM
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    same reason they removed the trans dip stick and went back to timing chains. less avenues for the avg customer to screw something up.
     
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  8. Apr 25, 2023 at 3:17 PM
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    LouALouA

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    Yeah. Timing belts didn't last til manufacturers recommended replacement miles. I remember I was at OU going to class for my final exam and my class buddy's timing belt popped on his small ford truck with a 2.3L engine. I drove him to class then helped him fix it afterwords. The following day I left Oklahoma for South Florida in my 1985 Thunderbird Turbo Coup with same 2.3L engine and I thought I would replace my belt when I got home. Only made it to Biloxi Mississippi when it popped. According to Ford I still had about 20,000 mile left on belt.
     

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