Cost for 3rd Gen Tundra Engine… $32k!!

Wouldn’t a 6” lift be the sensible fix for this issue? Maybe 8” if you live in Seattle where there is a lot of rain. Redneck mechanic checking in here.

 

Do they even have a breather extension on it? I that’s an issue way before water all the way up in the intake

 

I think Toyota should go back to the early 1UZs with them thick rods non-interference engines. I do understand we're in a throw away society now, where once it's done it's done... My old 1zz block could be rehoned vs my 2zz Yamaha had to be tossed

 

Advertised fording depth is 700 mm or 27.5”. Maybe slightly more with the video op’s lift/tire package. A bent rod points to water ingestion. If the fender liners were removed and the video OP drove through water, it doesn’t matter how shallow the water is, the intake will ingest water. That’s the only scenario I can think of based on the video.

 

Vast majority of hydrolocks happen from splashing not submerging. They can design a phone to be completely submerged in the toilet for 10 mins but can’t design an intake on an off road truck to not ingest water when splashing through some puddles?

 

Well, if you make the intake less likely to ingest water into the engine, now you have an engine with fancy, and hot, turbochargers, the alternator, exchangers, etc possibly exposed to a deluge of cold, murky, creek water from an especially bold driver who thinks all they need is an intake more resistant to water ingestion.

IMO the TT V6 is way too fancy to be thinking about dunking it, even partially.

 

A new TT V6 after splashing around in puddles: $32k.

Learning that you have an air filter and should check it once in a while: priceless.

 

So now I need to restrict my driving to only dry days on the highway. No other condition would be favourable to the TT V6.

The entire situation seems ridiculous!

Why not replace the bent rod and other related repairs? Did it blow a hole in the block? Or was that noise another main bearing packing it in?

Is a short block swap not available for these engines?

 

What are they doing with the Tacoma these days? Did they put a TT V6 or turbo 4cyl in it too?

 

Buddy has a 2023 Taco and it is running a Naturally Aspirated 3.5 V6. Not too peppy but it will probably last forever.

 

New vehicles are built like appliances. They are not made to be serviced or repaired, just replaced.

 

Yup. And that’s why auto insurance is skyrocketing. They’re making disposable $70k cars.

 

nobody is saying only dry days on the highway, lol. Let’s not totally exaggerate

just remember you didn’t buy a modded off road submarine

 

I think that's the point the guy is trying to make. He didn't do anything extreme with his vehicle (in his eyes), so he probably had no reason to look too far into it.

 

Remember the old Tundra ads where they pulled the space shuttle up that ramp? I wonder how they would respond if a customer tried doing the same and caused damage. DENIED. I agree though, false advertising.

 

Well, I don't know what actually happened to the truck, but,......if it IS water damage via the intake and not a bearing failure or something else,....
I reeeeealy don't think this guy got water in the intake by driving 5mph through 3" of water, with his dogs running ahead of him like in the vid clip. And then the engine failed weeks later?
Either it has nothing to do with water and the dealer is fulla shit, or it's from water and that guy is fulla shit.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLdA8tEpO0k


I phone up Toyota... "Yeah, hey, I tried towing a 292,000 lbs space ship and launched both cylinder heads into the ionosphere, can you replace my engine??"

 

I was running down the highway the other day and we had very heavy rain. The water coming off my tires was crazy! I am sure the spray was getting into the engine compartment from the wheel wells.

So while my statement was a bit over the top, I am now concerned about this and having to deal with a dealership who wants to tell me that my engine died because I allowed the air filters to get wet.

It might be that I get one with a future main bearing failure (or a bent rod??) and and they tell me that I have dirt in the bottom of the filter housings that caused this. Now $32k USD is more like $45k CAD.

I had my first dealing with my dealership a few weeks ago and the end result was a poor review of the entire experience. All I wanted was an oil change! All I got was a bunch of dirty hand prints on my freshly ceramic coated hood!

Sort of like being alone on a island with a storm coming!

 

Fixed that for you to reflect a more accurate statement.

The Gen 3 Tundra was designed for this:

https://youtu.be/8IU7B2khk-c

 

Yeah, totally Toyota's responsibility to pay for this guy not knowing and understanding his vehicle and limitations for off road entertainment...... seriously, where tf has personal responsibility gone over the last decade? Sure it sucks for the guy, but doesn't change the fact it was his fault. He modded the front end and removed the protection for water ingestion by the intake.... pretty simple concept here.

 

He did? I didn’t see where he removed the protection. Where did you see that?

 

He installed an overland front bumper which modified the intake area. He also had mud and dried dirty water under the hood and on top of the motor. Far more than what you'd see from slow speed fording or driving in the rain.if you read through the comments on the video, there's more information on the circumstances. He also shows a scene from three months prior with no off-road modifications done aside from tires and says that's as deep as he ever went. Which is likely not true as water didn't come into play until three months later and after modifications to the front end to install his new overland bumper. Dude makes some soft admissions in the video that also leads me to believe he knows he fked up after he realized the installation of that bumper was probably the culprit.

 

$32K for an engine, cheap!!!! You guys are lucky. Porsche 911 GT2 have the engine intake right in front of the rear wheels. Many engine failures due to grass or sand getting sucked in when driver goes off track. Porsche no cover $75K. You can't make it up......

 

If you’re concerned about it then buy the extended warranty for 2gs and then move on with life.

not worth being worried about it, nothing happened from driving in rain

 

I got a 7 year extended so I do have that to fall back on!

When my flares get here I will have a look at the air intakes to see what Toyota designed.

I guess this is just me panicking over a rare event! I need to come up for air!

 

I don’t know, Toyota made this new truck to get latte’s not do work, per their advertising. Be careful not to drive the truck near or in a liquid. Also make sure not to drive near abandoned Starbucks cups because the engine might ingest a liquid desert posing as coffee and grenade itself.

 

Looks to me like the real source of the failure was the crank bearings like many others. You can see how demolished the one is in this post by the owner of the truck.
https://www.tundras.com/threads/blown-engine.115124/page-4#post-3041823


I could see that happening to the bearing if water was introduced into the oil somehow, but not ingested through the intake. It also would have failed instantly and miraculously at the time of water ingestion, not many miles into what was otherwise a normal highway drive. They saw the dirty air filter and offroad accessories and said hey, here’s a money maker. There wasn’t a slew of bearing failures yet at that time. It’s clear now what really happened, and I truly don’t believe it was the owners doing.

 

Nah dude went out to get some pinky up fancy coffee with his yuppy friends and one of them spilled their cappuccino near the fenders and the engine snorted it up and blew up.

 

+1 on the main bearing. Listen to sound it makes in the video before stopping.

 

Dammit men stop using logic here! Think like a greedy Toyota dealer and Toyota Motor Co NA looking to deny warranty coverage.

This is clearly the owners fault for pouring his fancy coffee directly in the air box. Then it magically made it past the piston rings with no damage to the pistons, or rods and ruined those bearings! This couldn’t possibly be a defect in Toyota manufacturing!