One year in review of the 2022 Toyota Tundra, swing and a miss.

Am I reading that right about the curb weight for the non-hybrid is almost 6klbs? Looks like they actually weighed it due to the front/rear split percentage. That’s alot higher than the brochure 5800lbs (6.5ft crewmax, 5620 for 5.5ft). Gen2.5 crewmax was 5670 in 5.5ft for comparison and tests actually weighed that on the scale sans mods. This weight increase really confuses me vs. what competitors are doing to drop weight. Like the guy who slide through an intersection in a 2022 in snow, its a 6klb vehicle empty vs an F150 5.5ft crewcab is 4705lbs (and other mid/large SUVs now).

 

My guess is if we get into a recession next year and sales nosedive along with the chronic QC issues and general mediocre nature of the 3rd Gen, that the Tundra will go the way of the Nissan Titan.

I think Toyota will be happier not participating in the 1/2 ton light duty pickup market in North America. A slow selling, high warranty claim rate shit box will give Toyota Japan the excuse they need to tell the North American arm to go sit in the corner and color, and then kill off the Tundra.

 

I honestly hope toyota gets it figured out. I do. I still like the brand, just not the new tundra and I tried to like it. I wanted to like it. Sadly it did not work out for me.

 

You're way blowing this out of proportion.

Yes, interior is a bit less than desired, some minor issues, but power train is solid, and same powertrain is being used in many new Toyota models.

Toyota will get these minor issues fixed up probably within the next half year. We already see bunch of owners without any issues

Tundra will be just fine...

 

Believe me, everyone on here hopes so. None of us want to see the 3rd gen actually fail, but the issues being reported are either minor and common, or uncommon and catastrophic. Neither is a big plus.

 

I hope so. I would hate to go to the big 3. But on the same note, I don’t see the tundra being a truck that will be a high mileage truck or at the very least owners will be trading them away quickly and not keeping them long term like the other gen. The engine itself might prove to be reliable but all the other crap Toyota has put on it, not so much. 12 injectors, fuel pump for every cylinder, sensors and solenoids up the wazoo. Same goes for the transmission. When these truck break down out of warranty people are going to shit themselves at repair cost because it will be a nightmare to diagnose and repair in comparison to the v8. I don’t keep vehicles for long but those that do will probably not keep them as long as the v8’s. He’s the most detailed explanation of the v6.

https://www.toyota-club.net/files/faq/19-09-10_faq_df_v6_eng.htm

 

You'd rather see catastrophic and common?

 

I would have to agree that this generation Tundra looks like it is the worst product Toyota has brought to market in a long time.

I just hope this doesn't trickle down to the 4 runner and Tacoma. If so, it will look like my future car buying will be used 2.5 gen Tundras, 2nd or 3rd Gen Tacomas and 5th Gen 4 runners.

At least they made a bunch of em to choose from.

 

there is something wrong with the report.
all reports I have seen show the new Tundra is great at Towing.
this is first negative report I have read or seen and I am wondering if the Tundra in question was damaged.
maybe off roading.
maybe an engine mount - just saying.
that would contribute to the truck vibration at idle observation. That doesn't make sense either.
realize that does not help the other negative comments on build and quality which are consistent...and.... why would something like my implied engine mount be a problem on a new truck.
Well they didn't torque the rear hub bolts properly which lead to a recall. 8^0
Toyota's Quality trump card is not there.
Makes me wonder how long the grace period is?

 

I mean Toyotas process improvement is already in play. I’ve seen several early 2022 builds trade for 23 builds and more better quality with no rattles and better finish. SR5 to limited, or limited to platinum, etc

 

it sounds like the platinum air suspension they had was not adjusted like we've seen most of them, it said it felt like it was sitting on bump stops, it probably was.

 

I'll pass on the Silverado diesel or gasser due to the 24 gal fuel tank. That defies logic. Why would anyone make a truck for towing and offer only a 24 gal tank? I don't get it.

 

I suspect in GM's mind the 1500 is not for towing. They want to force you into a 3500 if they can.

 

But then why offer the Duramax in the 1/2 ton at all if not for towing?

 

I thought it was for highway fuel economy.

 

There is a large market of people that want diesels "because reasons/maybe I'll want to tow" just as there is a market of people that buy TRD Pros, Tremors, Raptors, Trxs, etc., and never take them off road.

Fuel economy purpose is so questionable with the price of diesel vs. gas.

 

Maybe, but if you consider the higher price for diesel, DEF, and maintenance not sure that works.

 

Exactly, more of a showing off item than anything. I would never have bought a Raptor if I didn't use them to service customers in remote locations with very rough roads and lots of highway in between. Like Ram's with their "ghost trailer" but tow mirrors always extended. I'd wager 90% of people where I live (lots of F-250's 350's) tow fewer than 2 times per year.

 

Does CAFE care about any of that?

 

I'm just a simpleton that looks at a 24 gal tank and walks away. It's just a deal killer for me as long as I'm towing.

 

I agree but why if there was a TSB for the air suspension not being correct do we still have that on teh new ones, there have been 2023s on this site still riding almost on the bump stops.

that one has me scratching my head as there was an official TSB out for it, wouldn't that be applied to the production line first or at least right after they figured it out?

 

I would also like to see a larger tank than a 24 gallon, missed opportunity. That said they get way better mileage towing and not towing with the 3.0 diesel. 12mpg x 24 gallons = 288 miles, compared to my truck towing my large camper getting 7.5mpg x 38 gallons = 285 miles. It comes out to the same. Meanwhile a lot of people are getting 30+ on the highway unloaded and that amounts to a crazy range on a 24 gallon tank (700+ miles).

 

Ditto but a lot of GM homers don't seem to care.

I don't think my brother has towed anything with his 5.3 so the tank doesn't bother him. First question he asked me when I bought my Tundra was "what about the fuel economy?"

 

True but they offer the same tank on the 5.3 and 6.2, which would be closer to the 7.5 in your scenario.

 

Even if I only got 7.5 mpg ( 8-9 for my set up) towing with my Tundra I'm still stopping to refuel just as often with the diesel and dealing with the hassles of owning a diesel. For me the benefit is just not there when you consider the price diff between diesel and gasoline.

Diesel in my area is over 30% higher than gasoline.

 

If diesel was .30c more, same price or cheaper I'd have one. The fuel tank issue is plaguing the sequoia as well- was going to trade the tundra in for one, but if we lift it, put on real tires and tow we are getting shit range which doesnt work for us.

 

I agree, but at least the Silverado/Sierra 1500 Duramax trucks can be fitted with a larger aftermarket tank from Titan:

https://titanfueltanks.com/catalog/product/view/id/163/s/gmc-1500-3500-crew-cab-7010519/category/2/

Currently listed for the 2019-2022, but my guess is once fitment is confirmed the 2023+ trucks will be able to use it too.

How does 43 gallons sound to you? I would only need to fill up 10-12 times a year….. on average if I filled up just below 1/4 tank.

 

Toyota sucks switching to ford!

 

Careful, someone’s gonna think y'all are fanboys if you say perfectly reasonable things like this, even though Toyota’s manufacturing, history, and reputation make it pretty obvious.

 

Yeah, unless towing daily or putting a ton of miles on getting the crazy 30mpg (just get a Prius) there’s not enough reason to make the switch. If I was buying something new though I’d still consider the 3.0 though personally. Right now I get 7.5-8 chugging down 93 octane pulling my 32’ TT all over, but I still love every minute of it towing and don’t plan to change anything. Hills? What are hills?