Blown engine

If you compare the issues I've just listed, which other manufacturers do you know that have had this many issues with a new pickup? they copied half the parts from the land cruiser and engine from the lexus.
They didn't create a brand new pickup from scratch
currently my truck has:
1) Ecu issues causing engine to shut down randomly
2) mudflap recall
3) axle shafts under recall that can seperate on the road
4) Rearview camera recall. my rearview camera rarely works
5)Electric parking break recall. I've been stranded at work before where it won't release and I couldn't leave
6) the turbo wastegate issue
7) Also my blown engine

Let's face it the Americans have been at the pick up game longer and do a better job. they were first with everything. hybrid drive trains, cylinder deactivation, luxury interiors, best in class really everything. I bought toyotas over the years for 2 reasons.
1) resale value
2) reliability
toyota waited 12 years when the Americans gave new models every 3 years. Remember when we asked toyota for better fuel economy on the tundra and they responded by giving us a bigger fuel tank? or when secretly removed the tundra transmission cooler to save productions costs 3 years ago hoping no one would notice? The longer you make people wait the more they expect and this wasn't it

 

Chevy, easily. All you have to do is Google something like "2020/2021 Chevy Silverado issues" and you'll see TONS of issues regarding transmission issues, lifter issues, engine failures, electrical systems, and I could go on. Ford has had their own issues. Same with the Rams.

Granted, this is seemingly a lot more issues than most Toyotas will ever see...but honestly, even considering your blown engine, *statistically* I'd still far rather buy a Toyota. I truly believe your issue is a one-off. The vast majority of the issues with the 2022 Tundras are fit & finish, except for maybe the turbos; that has largely been taken care of and was (I believe) a supplier issue.

 

Yes you should. Does the 22 use the same type of filter used in the 5.7? Not sure of the proper name for the filters on my 21 but they aren't the steel cases filters

 

In post #36 you said you used Castrol filters?

 

OP sorry to hear about issues with your truck.

Please keep us posted on progress as your experience is very important to document for the future

 

You're talking about CARTRIDGE style filters that are in the gen. 2 and gen 2.5 Tundras vs SPIN ON filters.

 

I’ll start out by saying I didn’t read every post, so if this is already covered, my bad…..

I wouldn't accept a rebuilt motor. Some people that have done so with their T4Rs had constant problems. I’ve seen a few people say that they had their T4R in the shop every 10k or so for work to be done. The work was covered by Toyota, but it was a giant pain in the ass. From what I recall, those who had to have the motor rebuilt was due to the dealership not putting oil in during the covered oil change under warranty. After that happened to a few people, subsequent dudes got brand new T4Rs. Their argument was that the dealer messed up, badly, and that it was unacceptable to have to come in every xxxx miles for repairs. Sounds like their situation was a little different than yours, but I think that gives you some wiggle room in an argument for your situation. First year vehicles have issues, to include Toyotas, but engine failure shouldn’t ever be on that list. A rebuilt motor is a cheap fix on Toyotas part. As far as I’m concerned, your owed a new truck since they won’t do a new motor. Just my $.02. Good luck.

 

Good point. Could see if enough oil can be extracted and set out for sampling.

 

You're looking for flakes of metal not so much any residual oil. The oil extracted may not be much help due to exposure to the atmosphere or contamination. The flakes trapped in the pleats of the filter could be analyzed to see if they are ferrous, babbit or aluminum.
In my two oil changes so far the only foreign objects I have found are a few tiny flakes of aluminum. In the 1 to 2 mm square range.
It's a good idea to inspect filters especially when the vehicle is new and if more than just a few flakes are found, take the filter in to the dealer and at least have a record made.

 

Thank you. Both my car and truck now have cartridge type filters as do my two 4wheelers. They are much, much easier to inspect than the spin on filters. A hint to anyone with a spin on filter. Most aircraft mechanics have a tool to cut the spin on filters open. Stop by your local good old boy airport and ask if they will cut it open for you.

 

I used oem for the first 2 the last one I did I thought I had more in my garage but I didn't so I let the shop use a castrol one after he showed me it was "oem approved" on the packaging. I'm very strict with that stuff. I have to provide my own oil and filter because alot of times I have no idea what you're selling me out of the vats of oil and what you're putting in the cartridge before you put it back on. I take the old filter back as well usually in case I need to cut it open and check. the spin on filters ill still buy oem they are 10 bucks each and the few dollars you save with the cheap stuff usually isint worth the risk.

 

I'm hoping for your sake your last filter comes out clean and Toyota finds either an oil delivery problem or one failed bearing. Sorry if this was mentioned but what oil did you use.

 

I use mobile 1 full synthetic on all my regular vehicles

 

Pretty hard to fault you for that. I hope it all works out in your favor. This is Toyota we're talking about not one of Detroit's big three.

 

I would seriously hate to have a rebuilt engine from a Toyota tech. Toyota should install a brand new long block.

 

Some pictures of the oil pan and the new block thats arrived

 

Oof! Sorry man, hopefully everything goes smooth and they take care of you.

 

I can tell you this from experience, if Toyota is promising an extended warranty, get it in writing! I am still fighting for the one they promised me back in February. I was looking at pursuing a lemon law buy back and was offered a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty if I did not go that route. I accepted and they refuse to provide it now.

Also, a lot of people on this forum chime in about they would demand this and that and lemon law etc, it isn't that easy when it comes down to it. The small print with Toyota gives them so much leeway, even if your state has a reasonable lemon law on the books. They can drag out your misery for many months and then buy back the truck as "used" since technically it is. I'm new to the brand but believe their customer service is the hands down the worst and most dishonest I have dealt with in my many years of owning trucks.

 

I like the brand and think they build good vehicles. It is easy if you play the game by their rules but better then Toyota. In the end, believe you need to stand your ground and do what you think is right or you will be taken advantage of. It's a system of let's deny first and put-up roadblocks to warranted repairs. Most walk away. To me it's a challenge. I never get upset-remain polite but persistent.

Couple years back, wife drove a Camary XSE. Pretty blue sparkle color. Only problem was that by 3000 miles, front half of the car looked like it was sandblasted. Started the process with the dealer and immediately denied any warranty repaint. Open a ticket with Toyota and to this day think the person/case manager did not know what a car was. Of course, they as well denied the claim. In the end, I did get them to cover a complete repaint and here is how it went. They rolled real fast. Went to another dealership and asked about Camry rentals-a precheck indicated one in the lot of the same color. I rented for one day, took pictures of all the paperwork and id information, paint codes and mileage at over 20K. Went back to purchasing dealership gave them all the information with a very polite statement. Wifes car 7 months old with 3000 miles has this paint problem and the rental Camry with same paint and almost a year old/20K miles was in excellent condition. I will be seeking legal advice from my lawyer.

An hour later received a call from the dealership GM that they would cover a complete repainting of the Camry.

 

I think there's someone on Reddit mention his engine on his 3rd gen also seized, but I think Toyota claims he has gone offroad with it.

found it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaTundra/comments/yqqzga/update_from_toyota_on_32k_2022_tundra_engine/

 

H2O ingress into a running very complicated engine and mud in the air box while doing something stupid is not usually covered. On this planet. Not sure about about the other planets.

 

The only issue I have had till now was a rental vehicle. I had to tow it a second time from the nearest Toyota to the one I bought it from. The service manager ended up being a stand up guy at that dealership. They are waiting on some gaskets to fix the engine and it's been smooth sailing till now. He responds to me in a quick time frame and super respectful. this was my first warranty claim ever and I just didn't understand how the dealer is responsible for providing me a rental and then going to toyota canada to make sure they cover it. Toyota corporate should provide rentals and be more involved in the process. I had to fight to get the Toyota rep over the phone and he was pretty good as well. the priority is to get my truck back on the road before the snow starts to pile then I'll negotiate something fair with them.

 

Negotiating from position of let's get if fixed first, then seek compensation under warranty generally does not work out. I do compliance by trade and it's best to show them where they are responsible first and have them cover it. It does sound like your timing with the weather puts you in a tough spot. Could suggest that since it's clearly an Engine failure under warranty, they cover the rental a warranty engine replacement, they provide a rental. I think you should push this now and let them work out who covers the cost. In the end, it's just a matter of transferring the cost between the P/L books.

 

They are covering the warranty and the rental. getting the rental was the issue. the first dealer basically told me to screw off and said I was eligible for a rental after determining they would cover the claim and after waiting 10 days for parts then they would start searching for one lol. I spoke to toyota canada and they said absolutely not I should have been given a rental in good faith in the mean time. The second dealer got me a rental in 3 days. It's been a corolla which isint equivalent to my pick up but cars are in such short supply up here, the service manager had to press the rental company and they finally came up with one for me. Believe me I'm happy this could have been alot more inconvenient

 

Have you been given a time frame when the repair will be complete?

 

no specific time frame I just know we're waiting on a gasket kit which I'm told they are searching everywhere to put together asap. I'm guessing 2-3 weeks from now?

 

At least you have a rental until it's fixed. The second dealer seems to be treating you right. Now the waiting game.........

 

Document everything. Date/Time conversations, Names and pictures. Huge PIA doing this, but in the end will stand up if needed on lemon law review or other legal actions

 

canada doesn't have lemon laws. we are so far behind the states with these kinds of regulations that protect the end user.

 

Depending where you are in Canada, I know some provinces have different laws to protect the consumer, anyways, back in the day when I pulled the info for my other car issues (Ford Fiesta), in Quebec, I was able to get the dealer to do something about it.

I do feel you though, my OG '22 Tundra's front diff blew/disintegrated at 1100km and spent a month at my local dealer (Buckingham, QC) to get it fixed, in the end it got fixed and dealer bought it back and gave me a good price for it. Now waiting on my' 23