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WildPeak A/T3W vs Michelin Agilis CrossClimate vs Blizzak LT

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by zack191137, Nov 16, 2022.

  1. Nov 16, 2022 at 6:54 PM
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    I living NW Washtington and usually do a lot of snowboarding over the winter. Also looking to plan a roadtrip to ID and BC in this winter.

    I am looking to a better winter tire to replace the OE non-snow rated All season tire. Which one would be the best choice. There is not too much comparison on the internet.

    There is a lot of rain and slush ice in the NW Washington, the temp is not too low here. I am also thinking about ride quality, will they have big difference?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Nov 16, 2022 at 6:56 PM
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    also there is potential non-LT tires, like Blizzak DM-V2, would it be a better option?
     
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    If you’re going standard sizes, SL Blizzaks (DMV2) are great here. I have heard bad things about the new LT versions. I drive on ice/snow roads in the northwest alot and the Blizzaks made it like driving summer tires in summer. Offroad is whole different animal. These would be dedicated snow tires though as Blizzaks will not last long in warm weather.
     
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    A true snow tire is hands down going to be better. I run Blizzak DM-V2’s on my Lexus GX in the winter, and KO2’s in the summer. I also run KO2’s on my F150 year round. I used to run Wrangler Duratracs, which are arguably the best all terrain tire on snow, on my trucks. Blizzaks are just better, without a doubt.

    But if you are not wanting to buy a second set of wheels and swap them every spring and fall, a decent all terrain should do ok. Duratracs are great in snow. Ive heard the Wildpeaks are good too but never had them. In my experience the KO2’s are pretty mediocre. My dad runs Michelin LTX’s on his Expedition and says they are pretty good on snow and hes run Blizzaks before on other cars.

    That said, im not sure the Blizzak LT’s or the Agilis are what I would choose. You dont need an LT e range tire on a Tundra. Id look at DM-V2’s or similar
     
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    I’ve actually owned the Falken at3, the Blizzaks and I just put a set of crossclimate2 on an suv. At3 was okay in the winter, but I ran the Blizzaks Dmv2 instead which is a world of difference. Problem is that the Blizzaks are winter only, they were squishy when the temperature warmed up. I just drove in some first snowfall today on the crossclimate2 and can say they are better in snow than the at3. They are also better in the dry and wet, but I doubt they would be as good on a trail. Depends on what you are looking for.
     
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    Looking in to DM V2. I don't think they have 265/60R20 option.

    The closet one I can found it 275/60R20, is it OK to use this size?
     
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    If you aren’t in harsh winters I think you could get away with the at3 but they aren’t going to be better then the blizzaks in the snow. Those are hard to beat. The at3 is all around good performance in all weather conditions and can run them year around.
     
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    No question that the Blizzard are going to to perform better than any tire mentioned in the snow.

    I drive in a decent amount of freezing rain, ice, light snow and some times heavy snow. If the Agilis CrossClimates are anything like the CrossClimate 2’s I personally would recommend them in a heartbeat. They are an incredibly well rounded tire that has surpassed my expectations in many instances. They have a unique him and the mpg’s will go down slightly like an AT.

    I am in the minority here BUT I have found the Michelin Defender LTX and the older LTX line to be vastly better in the rain, wintry mixes, ice, and light snow than the many AT tires I have used. For an all season tire that’s pretty incredible. But for me and my usage a tire like the CrossClimate is now in a league of its own…I hope Michelin would make it in a 275/65R18. Extremely versatile tire IF you are not doing real off-roading (not hunting trails or gravels paths).
     
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    Should be fine. Its only 0.4" taller than the 265/60.

    But what wheels are you putting them on? You might as well get a spare set of 17's or 18's and put the blizzaks on those. I bet there's a bunch of people selling Tundra wheels on craigslist.
     
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    I’ve run the blizzak LTs and wasn’t impressed. The dm-v2s are way better and can run laps around any AT in the snow.

    Running dedicated winter tires is totally worth it IMO.
     
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    The Defenders are an incredible truck and suv tire in all weather conditions.
     
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    Yeah may as well go 18” using takeoffs depending on the vehicle year. Looking this morning on Offerup there are half a dozen 2022 18” wheels available, some as low as 500$ including new tires and tpms. For 2007-2021 there are hundreds of deals available for 100-200$ for aluminum Tundra rims out there too. Getting the tpms sensors saves about 250$.
     
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    Don't know what problems people have had with the LT Blizzaks. I run LT Blizzak 275/70R18 in the winter in MN and the Defender LTX M/S 295/70R18 in the spring/summer/fall.

    Had never run a dedicated snow tire until about 3-4 years ago. So much better than the AT route. Never had issues with the LT Blizzaks, they have worked great.
     
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    Another thing I am considering the weather. Here in NW Washington, the winter is mild, with temp stay ~40F through. Seems the winter tires are built for winter way harsher than this.

    Here is the weather for next 10 days.

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    If 40s are your temps you do not want winter tires IMO, unless you are willing to go through a pair a year IMO. Temps hit 40 the for first time in the spring, and the winter tires come off for me.
     
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    I dont know about problems, but just based on the description of the tires, the DM-V2 is designed for light trucks and suvs(half tons) while the LT's seems to be designed for commercial 3/4 ton and up trucks and vans that are going to be carrying far more weight constantly. The compound is different and I suspect its probably not as good as the DM-V2 unless you need the stronger compound to consistently carry more weight without wearing them out in 5 seconds(although a bunch of reviews say the wear was terrible on the LT's)

    They are just different tires with different use cases and the Tundra doesnt seem to fit the description of the LT.
     
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    Well, all I can let people know is I have the Tundra with the LT Blizzaks and a RX350 with the Blizzak DM-V2s. They both work great with no problems or complaints. Steering, grip and stopping power is great on both types of Blizzaks.
     
  18. Nov 17, 2022 at 2:29 PM
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    Thanks for all the infos. I will have a dedicated wheel for winter tires.

    I am debating between Blizzaks LT on OEM 20inch wheel or Blizzaks DM-V2 on OEM 18inch Wheel. How much of difference of P vs LT version?

    There is also Toyo GIS-6 or Cooper Snow Claw LT, any experience with those?
     
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    I had dmv2 on my tundra. Great traction. Unless you absolutely need LT, I think you will find the dmv2 a more comfortable ride. I never tried the Toyo or Coopers. I’ve had Nokian Hakkas (great and comparable to dmv2), hankook ipikes and Goodyear winters (both one step down), and Firestone winter force (worst and loudest).
     

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